Confusions and Questions Need Help

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FayyazValani2017
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Confusions and Questions Need Help

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Ya Ali Madad
Allahumma Salli Ala Muhammadin Va Aale Muhammad[recite the holy salwat]

I got few confusions and questions and a kichdi kinda thing is formed in my mind . These are short questions so i think making different threads/post wont be right? . I am somewhat between Shriat-Tariqat-Haqiqat
It would be easy to understand if you give answer as your are answering a Haqiqati ismaili , As Marifat is my goal and to reach i want to learn haqiqat first
Thank You

1.) Ali as Allah
In my brain the concept of Ali Allah is . That normally Shariati brothers would say Allah is rehman , rahim etc , so for them the image of Allah is the one who is most Rehman , Most rahim ,Creator etc that is Allah for them . And As Tariqati Concept is That All the attributes and names of Allah are applied to Universal Intellect [Ali , Vishnu , God The Attributes]And Universal Soul[Brahma,Mohammad] [correct me if wrong] , And Allah is
khat nirinjan , alakh nirinjan , unconditioned reality , beyond human thoughts .So with that concept , As Universal Intellect have all the attributes , So He is the Allah and Universal intellect name is Ali,Vishnu so Vishnu and Ali are Allah ? and the imam we have bear the noor of them or they are their reflection ? So They are not Allah but Ali which is Universal intellect is Allah , or Do we consider Hazrat Ali or Hazir Imam as Allah What is it actually ? i dont know is that right?

and If All attributes are applied to Universal Soul also , why is she not God [is it because Universal intellect is actually perfect but Universal Soul is not completely perfect]

2.) Why Do God Test Us
I got a answer from a reddit user [might be ismaili] named MuslimAcademic

He said He dont take test , Then where all the hardship etc come from , i mean if he dont take test , then why we have all the problem , and some born physically disabled , some mentally etc like that why is that if he dont take test , i mean that would be useless.
And If he is taking test , then Who is taking test , the God [khat nirinjan] or the Universal Intellect [Ali]
and Why is he taking test

3.) Whats the difference between Pir and Prophet
If pir is appointed by Imam , then why Prophet is appointed by God
and in this case by which God ? Ali or The Khat Nirinjan
And are all prophets were pir or only Prophet Muhammad was a pir

4.) Why Imams before Moula Ali are not in our dua . And as Prophet Abraham was a imam etc . And We Consider that there has to be an imam/guide in every age , Har Zamaney me imam/guide ka hona lazmi ha.
So before Imam Ali there has to be a imam

5.) Prophet Muhammad
Prophet muhammad was chosen as a prophet by Ali/Allah because of his Batini Bandagi[Correct me if wrong]
, In the same way do all the Prophet got chosen ?

6.) Quran
Quran comes from root word Qirat ,which means Recitation , So Quran is recitation of Prophet Muhammad , As Universal Soul inspire Prophet And Prophet said whatever he received he recited in arabic in a poetic way , but (1) Does it contain words of Prophet too , i mean words like of Fighting with Kufar , or any law statement , etc like that . or it was also from Universal Soul , and is there any hidden meaning in verses of war etc , if yes please mention that
And If it was recitation of prophet , then why his hadith are not in the quran i mean Prophet said so many things , then Why not all sayings/recitation are in the Quran , Did prophet told them that this is for Quran or somthing like that , Sorry my history is weak :p
And i dont know if i am right but There are verses which say Prophet role is also to Interpretate the

7.) Pornography
Taharat = Purity
So In that Case Pornography is also haram right , i am a huge porn addict and masturbating was a normal thing for me , and It is very common here in teenagers , I have also read farman of Hazir Imam , in which he said To Keep Your Eyes , ears , mouth pious , Although Source/Reference was not mention there if anyone can , it would be Good , and It was also Hadith of Prophet to dont do the Zina of Eyes , and so many more farmans and ahadiths , but still i sometimes when cant control my nafs i do watch , which is sad , is there any way i can stop doing all that? I should spent my time in bandagi right?

Have more but going to post after this :p
My native language is urdu , so thats why my English will might be hard to understand :p
Thank You
Allahumma Salli Ala Muhammadin Va Aale Muhammad[recite the holy salwat]
Mawla Ali Madad

To Admin : If title/subject is not appropriate , please suggest one :p i could not think of any :D
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Post by FayyazValani2017 »

Moula Ali Madad
Thank you for your response , as you asked earlier , which i forget to reply , no I am not Fayaz006 , i am FayyazValani :) , The interest for ismailism started 6-month ago , I was not in favour of ismailism , but then learn about it , and now i want to spread it :)

Ok i will be reading the post you mentioned , Thank you

See tell me if i am wrong or not
Khat nirinjan : The one who is not known , he is beyond human thought but through imams and prophet we can recognize him .
Universal Intellect : First Originated Being by Khat Nirinjan , All the 99 names of Allah , are actually of Universal Intellect

Universal Intellect : He is masculine , He is also called Ali , Vishnu , God The Attributes , Aql-E-Kul , Imams are manifestation of universal intellect

Universal Soul : After Worship of Universal Intellect , kind of glow came out from him which is the Universal Soul came into being , It is She , While Universal intellect is perfect in both actuality and potentially , Universal Soul is only perfect in potentially not actuality . So to find its perfect , she created the cosmos and At the end we are going to be unite with her .

You said "What you see whatever you feel like noor of Ali ,or Allah.
You see one face of HAZAR IMAM. "
i am sorry but can you explain it a bit more, Who is actually Allah , is it Hazir Imam or is he Noor of Allah , or is it Universal Intellect The Ali , As Khat nirijan is beyond everything .

You said "He puts humanity on test ,we do not test him with options and status and waste time."
But Why , Whats the reason of it , So We Worship him and if yes it is ok , but who actually is taking the test , is it Universal intellect or Khat Nirinjan


Yes please guide me ,
To Admin/Kamherali/Nuseri : But It is not clear i mean you have to go through tons of pages , and in between is so many debates kind of , it is Good [FREE KNOWLEDGE THOUGH :D] but still Its takes alot of time and confuses alot , and Point is sometime not clear . So dont you think there should be a summarize kinda things , there should be another section which gives conclusions of post , :p Sorry for that , but just an advice
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