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alpha



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:42 am    Post subject: Creation of the Universe Reply with quote

Watched a show last night about the creation of the universe and it made me wonder; Has anyone come across texts/literature/Ginans that have discussed the nature of this topic? I have come across the Ginan discussing evolution but have not seen anything that relates to space and the universe.


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agakhani



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are many Granths in which you can find cosmology, some are not available but some are still available you can find some in Ismaili.net too.
The following are the ginans and granths which has detail about the space and universes.

1, Gavantri:
2, Das Avtar moto:
3, Das avtar nano:
3, Nankalnki Gita: ( very good detail about universes but very hard to understand)
4, Chatur Kalap ane char jugnu mandan: very informative for creation by pir sadardin
5, Chatris Karods: by Pir Sadardin.
6, Girbhavali: in this granth Pir Sadardin compare universe with human body according him all the objects which we are seeing out side in universe are also in our bodies.

There are many ginans in which you can find little detail about cosmology but in short ( how the this world was created) for space and universe you must have to read Nakalanki Gita, Chatur kalap ane char jugnu mandan.
There many waez on the subject of "creation" by Rai Abu Ali.
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alpha



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the creation, how God created the foam, how He created the egg, how He created the world out of it and what the world is relying on, its explanation.

I found this line and particularly the word foam interesting. Foam is a substance that is formed by trapping many gaseous bubbles in a liquid or solid.

In school we learned about the primoridal soup theory which suggests that life began in a pond or ocean as a result of the combination of chemicals from the atmosphere and some form of energy to make amino acids, the building blocks of proteins, which would then evolve into all the species.

Chemist Stanley Miller and physicist Harold Urey did a famous experiment in 1950 to test this theory. They mixed gases thought to be present on primitive earth:


Methane (CH4)


Ammonia (NH3)


Water (H2O)


Hydrogen (H2)


No Oxygen

They then electrically sparked the mixture to signify lightning. The results were amino acids, the building blocks of proteins,


Was our Pir hinting at this primordial soup?

Or is this line more towards cosmology? Quantum foam, also referred to as spacetime foam, is a concept in quantum mechanics, devised by John Wheeler in 1955. The foam is supposedly the foundations of the fabric of the universe.

I find it intriguing that out of all the words to use, our Pir used foam.

What do you guys think?

And also what are your thoughts on the meaning of the line I posted?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will not find the chemical forms like H20 for water and H2 for hydrogen e.t.c. matter of fact you will not find any scientific words in ginans either like hydrogen, ammonia methane e.t.c. there are similar words for these words but it is in old Gujarati or colloquial langauge during that time
I have few words in mind right now which are as follows:-
ફીણ: fin: foam

ગોટો: goto: cloud of smoke or dust, bubble.
There are many words you can find in ginans with different names but theory is almost same as you described here.
You need to read those ginans by your self which I mentioned earlier and I bet you will definitely amazed and surprised about the information our pirs already gave in ginans hundreds years ago which information scientist are discovering right now.
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shiraz.virani



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my fav topics icon_smile.gif...Hope this will help !! icon_wink.gif


http://aboutfacts.net/SpacePlanets82.htm
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