I have not heard any Farman by the Imam not to come. this time so repeating 100 times Hazar Imam does not want to see his Murids in Didar does not mean anything.
In the past he has sent Talika to his Jamats when circumstances were such that the Jamat should not have traveled for Didar.
There are always people who interpret everything as if Imam was mean and did not appreciate signs of love from his Jamat. They just have no clue on how much the Imam loves his Jamat.
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:46 am Post subject: Message to Admin
Ya Ali Admin.<BR><BR>Please can you give any info what arrangements are made for international jamat in Nairobi or Kampala...any Help will be<BR>most appreciated.....I am praying lots that my wish comes true....I wanna be there...Insha'Allah! I need to book the flight? Please Help...where I can get contact for more info?
Admin, to clarify, i am not saying that the Imam is mean or anything admin, I just believe when a request has been made from the national council that the ceremonies be only for e.africa, then we should listen...thats all .. i myself can't wait until another didar, i appreciate that on this website there is a place for people to discuss possible didar dates and rumors that people are hearing so that i can plan ahead of time if i hear there maybe one somehwere, but i would not go if a request that the international jamat not come....also, i think any posts that mention private religious practices should be deleted as well. thanks
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Message to Admin
mun wrote:
Please can you give any info what arrangements are made for international jamat in Nairobi or Kampala...any Help will be most appreciated
From nairobi which is a hub, one can move easily to Dar es salaam or Kampla, the lowest return ticket would be $300 for a return from nairobi to any of these cities. Kenya Airways, Fly540 and Jetlink are possible (You can google those company)
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:57 am Post subject: Admin
<P>Admin, thanks for your reply....Any idea o­n accommodation nearby in Nairobi and Kampala? And how much do you know if International Jamat will get deedar in Nairobi and Kampala....I have to book my flight in the morning...but no luck with accommodation....Help if u can....especially with dates? </P>
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:32 pm Post subject: Very unfair
I do not recall any facilities of airport pickups or accomodation help being provided in the US, Canada, London etc. and yet when jamat from these countries want to come to East Africa they expect a lot. Already I have seen several people asking for airport pickups and accommodation. NAIROBI IS NOT A VILLAGE. it is a well developed metropolis. Tourists from all over the world come to Nairobi. Do they sleep on the streets?!
My fellow brothers and sisters from the Western world should stop deliberately pretending to be so ignorant, out of hope for freebies. East Africa is not a jungle. First of all, the international airport is of world class standard and there are hundreds and thousands of taxis to take you wherever you want to go. And the fare will just about cost you $15-20 at the current rate. So why hope for pickups? Also, Nairobi, Dar Es Salaam and Kampala have the best hotels in the world which can all be googled easily and booked online. East African jamat is very busy preparing themselves for the ceremonies. We welcome global jamat for general deedars on 8th July (Dar), 13th July (Kampala) and 23rd July (Nairobi) and registration for international jamat is being done. But out of respect for the fact that we received a very short notice for such a monumental visit, do not expect pick ups and accommodations and other facilities. We will be happy to see you but East Africa is not a jungle and you are westerners, well able to take care of yourselves!!
Secondly, all those who are claiming travelling to East Africa to be "befarmani" are just making excuses. The fact that the Imam, out of His divine mercy, has consented to a general deedar in each city for which international registration is open automatically nullifies such ridiculous claims. However, visiting brothers and sisters are requested not to try and inveigle their way into the ceremonies which are for residents only, thereby creating tension for the volunteers.
I hope this will clarify to all the doubters out there.
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:10 am Post subject: Charter to Kampala on 13th July, same day return
A chartered flight at a reasonable cost is being arranged from Nairobi to Kampala on 13th July in the morning and return being planned on the same day in the evening.
A few seats are still available. Please call +254 724 277 757
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:27 am Post subject: Kampala Deedar
<P>Ya Ali Indigo,<BR><BR>Thanks for the info, especially with the Deedar Dates...now I can move forward with booking my flight....Any help with names or area of cheap hotel nearby the Deedar venue in Kampala and Nairobi also would be most appreciated.....I wanna be there Insha'Allah!! Please also give the addresses of the Jamatkhanas & Venue?</P>
I was not aware that the Imam had said yes to the international jamat coming. That is not known here, most people are under the impression that the international jamat was asked not to come and that it is only for e.africa. This is news to me. If I had known ahead of time I would have probably come. Thanks for the info.
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Kampala Deedar
mun wrote:
<P>Ya Ali Indigo,<BR><BR>Thanks for the info, especially with the Deedar Dates...now I can move forward with booking my flight....Any help with names or area of cheap hotel nearby the Deedar venue in Kampala and Nairobi also would be most appreciated.....I wanna be there Insha'Allah!! Please also give the addresses of the Jamatkhanas & Venue?</P>
I don know about Kampala.
For Nairobi, there's Southern Sun on parklands road and Azee House which is perhaps the closest.
This hotel isn't within walking distance but about 5-8min via car.
The darbar will be at the Complex which is next to Parklands Jamatkhana located on 5th Parklands Avenue, opposite Aga Khan Primary School. (taxi drivers know it as khoja mosque). On the other side of the khane is Aga Khan Hospital University which has a path leading to the khane. It's therefore easy to find.
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:01 pm Post subject: Hotel in Nairobi
There's also Pride Inn located on Rhapta Road, Westlands which is a ten minute taxi ride to Darkhana (Parklands). They have a special offer of $100 bed n breakfast.
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: Mubaraki!!!!!
MUBARAKI TO ALL!!! our most beloved Hazar Imam has landed this evening at 6:40pm in Dar Es Salaam. He looks absolutely radiant and is glowing with joy!!
Dwaar khulle jannat ke,
Jhoom uthaa asmaan,
Deep jalle ghar ghar mein,
Chamak uthaa sara jahaan
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: Very unfair
Indigo wrote:
I do not recall any facilities of airport pickups or accomodation help being provided in the US, Canada, London etc. and yet when jamat from these countries want to come to East Africa they expect a lot. Already I have seen several people asking for airport pickups and accommodation. NAIROBI IS NOT A VILLAGE. it is a well developed metropolis. Tourists from all over the world come to Nairobi. Do they sleep o­n the streets?! My fellow brothers and sisters from the Western world should stop deliberately pretending to be so ignorant, out of hope for freebies. East Africa is not a jungle. First of all, the international airport is of world class standard and there are hundreds and thousands of taxis to take you wherever you want to go. And the fare will just about cost you $15-20 at the current rate. So why hope for pickups? Also, Nairobi, Dar Es Salaam and Kampala have the best hotels in the world which can all be googled easily and booked o­nline. East African jamat is very busy preparing themselves for the ceremonies. We welcome global jamat for general deedars o­n 8th July (Dar), 13th July (Kampala) and 23rd July (Nairobi) and registration for international jamat is being done. But out of respect for the fact that we received a very short notice for such a monumental visit, do not expect pick ups and accommodations and other facilities. We will be happy to see you but East Africa is not a jungle and you are westerners, well able to take care of yourselves!!<BR><BR>Secondly, all those who are claiming travelling to East Africa to be "befarmani" are just making excuses. The fact that the Imam, out of His divine mercy, has consented to a general deedar in each city for which international registration is open automatically nullifies such ridiculous claims. However, visiting brothers and sisters are requested not to try and inveigle their way into the ceremonies which are for residents o­nly, thereby creating tension for the volunteers. <BR><BR>I hope this will clarify to all the doubters out there.
Indigo what you have said is TRUE that Nairobi or E.Africa is not a VILLAGE ... but U R forgetting that these countries also like a little bribery when allowing tourists in.... and so not having gone there for a decade....we would appreciate and feel at ease to see a brother or sister who would ensure that we all have a smooth entry / exist.... and for accommodation... it would be nice to have people visiting (who need this accommodation) in one place or near each other... so if there is transportation available everyone can go together... because it is SUCH AN OCCASION.... comprehend ??? Nobody is looking for FREEBIES.... and by the way in UK, Canada, USA.... bribery does not work at the airports esp. .... only set standards of procedures work.... thats the difference... waky waky--- moreover VISAS are required to enter UK, Canada and USA... and it does get complicated !!
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