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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The poem below can be interpreted as a possibility of a collective UFO experience just as the appearance of the white horse in Cairo recently...

I saw a great light come down over London (from Transmissions)

By Jay Ramsay
(Contemporary)

I saw a great light come down over London,
And buildings and cars and people were still
They were held wherever they were under the sky's
Clear humming radiance as it descended --
Everywhere, in shops, behind desks and on trains
Everything stopped as the stillness came down
And touched the crown of our heads
As our eyes closed, and the sky filled us
And our minds became the sky --
And everyone, regardless of crime class or creed
Was touched; as slowly we began to stir
Out of this penetrated light-filled sleep
Dizzily as the hand completed its dialing,
And the train lurched forward
And I saw faces looking at one another questioning,
I saw people meeting eye to eye and standing
Half amazed by each other's presence
I saw their mouths silently shaping the word why
Why didn't we know this? and yet knowing
They already knew, and without words
We all stood searching for the gesture
That would say it --

As the lights went green, and we drove on.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OUR GALAXY [milky way] = THE LOWEST HEAVEN ???

As mentioned in quran there are seven heavens out of which our galaxy is the lowest of all !!!

37:6 Lo! We have adorned the lowest heaven with an ornament, the planets

37:7 With security from every froward devil/evil spirits.

The question is what kind of security ??? It is physical ? Is it living or mechanical in nature ?? Is it worldly or spiritual ?? Is it earthly or from outer space ?

Our galaxy consists of about 200 billion stars, with our Sun being a fairly typical specimen. It is a fairly large spiral galaxy and it has three main components: a disk, in which the solar system resides, a central bulge at the core, and an all encompassing halo.

How did Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) know about the 20th century scientific fact of the Planets existence?

People used to refer to the planets as big stars, and they actually gave them names. But the Qur’an clearly separates Stars from Planets. icon_smile.gif

TIME

Time is one of the most elusive mysteries of the universe. No one knows what time really is. Albert Einstein said that time is the thing that we measure with the clock. Time passes slowly at high speeds and stops- altogether at the speed of light. Time has a direction, it always moves towards the future. We see rain falling from the sky, objects breaking up, people getting older, and people dying.

We never see a glass getting unbroken or any one coming back from the dead. Physicists like Michael BerTy, Thomas Gold, and Steven Hawking have proposed that time may reverse then the universe starts contracting. Verses in the Qur’an suggest that one day the universe will start contracting and then the Day of Judgment will begin.

“The day when We shall roll up the heavens as a recorder rolls up a written scroll. As We began the first creation, We shall repeat it.” (Qur’an, 21:104)

In the above verse the contraction of the universe is compared to the closing of a scroll. That is when time may reverse. Reversal of time will cause man to rise back from his grave and again become alive. Every event will happen again as every thing, is recorded in time.

Confused isnt it ?? Dont be !! .....Its the word of god !!! icon_wink.gif

“And there is nothing hidden in the heavens or the earth but it is a clear record ( in time).”
(Qur’an, 27:75)

As the history of earth runs backwards, nations will return one after another. All the good and evil deeds of the individual as well as the nations will become completely apparent as the time runs backwards.

Here's what maherali bhai said and I quote......" WE ARE GOING IN REVERSE DIRECTION " icon_smile.gif

“And you will see each nation crouching each nation called to its record. (In time). And it will be said to them: This day you are repaid for what you used to do.” (Qur’an, 45:2icon_cool.gif

Playing back of time will make people see what they had done before. They will have no control over their hands, feet, mouths, and eyes. They will repeat all the wrong and right things that were done before again. In this sense the hands, feet, etc., will become witness against them in front of all the angels and Allah. They will not be able to deny any of their wrong doings.

“On the day when the their tongues and their hands and their feet testify against them as to what they used to do.” (Qur’an, 24:24)

“We warn you of doom at hand. A day when a man will look on that his own hand has sent before, and disbelievers will cry, “Would that we were dust”
(Qur’an, 78:40)

(Prophets will be returned into their time as time runs backwards) And the messengers are brought into their time appointed.” (Qur’an, 77:11)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

viru, you have a very bad habit of plagiarism, taking stuff from other website, and not even having a bit of courtesy to give credit to the source.

For other commentators, please see full article at the below link:


http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/research/gr/public/gal_milky.html
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rev 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

Was that really a star ?? I dont think so !!!..... Today the scientists have come to a conclusion that earth is HOLLOW.....Read the above verse again it talks about BOTTOMLESS PIT icon_smile.gif


Rev 9:2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.


Rev 9:3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.


Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.


Rev 9:5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment [was] as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.


Rev 9:6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.


Rev 9:7 And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men.

@ above verse informs us that whatever fall on earth was not human....but HUMAN LIKE


Rev 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as [the teeth] of lions.


Rev 9:9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings [was] as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.


Rev 9:10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power [was] to hurt men five months.

Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon.

What a coincidence !!! The term ABADDON means " The Destroyer "

This sounds more like GOG n MAGOG but i still doubt it because these two tribes were the trouble makers where as the job of this so called beings is to watch over us icon_smile.gif......maherali bhai what are your comments on this ??
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(25:25) ANGELS AND HEAVEN’S GATES

“A day when the heavens and the clouds will be rent asunder and the angels will be sent down a grand descent.” (Qur’an, 25:25)

“And think of the day when We remove the hills and you see the earth emerging and we gather them together so as to leave not one of them behind.” (Qur’an, 18:47)

The collapsing universe will be ultimately destroyed in a fireball which physicists call the “Big Crunch.” Every one will be gathered. Any one remaining behind will regress to nothingness, because the time will be running backwards. The angels of “the grand descent” would probably accomplish the gathering and removal of humans to “The beyond”.
In our final journey through the gates that will open in the center sky we would go across many planes or dimensions. The word “ride” is used in the Qur’an as if this journey will be accomplished by riding on “something.”

“That you shall “ride” on from plane to plane.” (Qur’an, 84:19)

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Below are some very special bonus aayats for TRET [ navroz special ] icon_biggrin.gif lol

What aileth them, then, that they believe not (84:20)

And, when the Qur'an is recited unto them, worship not (Allah)? (84:21)

Nay, but those who disbelieve will deny (84:22)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plurality of the worlds

If you open the Qur’an to the first surah, you will notice it begins as follows:

“Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds.”
(Qur’an, 1:1)

Worlds? Not just one? Yes . . . worlds! There is the physical world, the spiritual world, the world of bacteria, and so forth. That, obviously, is one sense in which we can understand ‘worlds’.

Another verse of the Qur’an, however, makes it clear that there are many earths

Allah it is who hath created seven heavens, and of the earth the like thereof. The commandment cometh down among them slowly, that ye may know that Allah is Able to do all things, and that Allah surroundeth all things in knowledge.
( Qur’an 65:12)

Is it possible that there may be other earths out there? No one expects to find another earth within our solar system. But scientists say it is likely that in our galaxy there are many earths outside the solar system. They say that approximately 50 billion stars in the Milky Way rotate slowly, as does the sun. This characteristic indicates that planets that are their satellites surround those stars.

The Bernard Star, for example, is believed to have at least one planetary companion. All the evidence points to the fact that planetary systems are scattered in profusion all over the universe. The solar system and the earth are not unique. The Qur’an also uses the symbolic plural number 7 to indicate the existence of a plurality of heavens

He it is Who created for you all that is in the earth. Then turned He to the heaven, and fashioned it as seven heavens. And He is knower of all things
(Qur’an 2:29)

Once again we find that the Qur’an says something and scientists later discover it to be true. Can we resist believing in this book of God? God says:

“Those who disbelieve in the Reminder when it comes unto them (are guilty), for indeed it is an unassailable Scripture. Falsehood cannot come at it from before it or behind it. (It is) a revelation from the Wise, the Owner of Praise”
(Qur’an, 41:41-42)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shiraz.virani wrote:


Allah it is who hath created seven heavens, and of the earth the like thereof. The commandment cometh down among them slowly, that ye may know that Allah is Able to do all things, and that Allah surroundeth all things in knowledge.
( Qur’an 65:12)

There has been some discussion on the seven heavens at:

Doctrines --> the seven heavens?

http://www.ismaili.net/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2080&highlight=garden+nine+continents
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shiraz.virani wrote:
Plurality of the worlds

If you open the Qur’an to the first surah, you will notice it begins as follows:

“Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds.”
(Qur’an, 1:1)

Worlds? Not just one? Yes . . . worlds! There is the physical world, the spiritual world, the world of bacteria, and so forth. That, obviously, is one sense in which we can understand ‘worlds’.

Another verse of the Qur’an, however, makes it clear that there are many earths

Allah it is who hath created seven heavens, and of the earth the like thereof. The commandment cometh down among them slowly, that ye may know that Allah is Able to do all things, and that Allah surroundeth all things in knowledge.
( Qur’an 65:12)

Is it possible that there may be other earths out there? No one expects to find another earth within our solar system. But scientists say it is likely that in our galaxy there are many earths outside the solar system. They say that approximately 50 billion stars in the Milky Way rotate slowly, as does the sun. This characteristic indicates that planets that are their satellites surround those stars.

The Bernard Star, for example, is believed to have at least one planetary companion. All the evidence points to the fact that planetary systems are scattered in profusion all over the universe. The solar system and the earth are not unique. The Qur’an also uses the symbolic plural number 7 to indicate the existence of a plurality of heavens

He it is Who created for you all that is in the earth. Then turned He to the heaven, and fashioned it as seven heavens. And He is knower of all things
(Qur’an 2:29)

Once again we find that the Qur’an says something and scientists later discover it to be true. Can we resist believing in this book of God? God says:

“Those who disbelieve in the Reminder when it comes unto them (are guilty), for indeed it is an unassailable Scripture. Falsehood cannot come at it from before it or behind it. (It is) a revelation from the Wise, the Owner of Praise”
(Qur’an, 41:41-42)




viru, you have a very bad habit of plagiarism, taking stuff from other website, and not even having a bit of courtesy to give credit to the source.

For other commentators, please see full article at the below link:


http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/research/gr/public/gal_milky.html
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
There has been some discussion on the seven heavens at:

Doctrines --> the seven heavens?

http://www.ismaili.net/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2080&highlight=garden+nine+continents


Thank You maherali bhai....

THE ELEVEN PLANETS ????

Consisting of the Sun, a family of nine known planets, sixty seven satellites (moons) of the planets, millions of asteroids, and billions of comets, our Solar System is an oasis of light, heat, and life.

The inner solar system contains the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars.
The planets of the outer solar system are Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto..........“When Joseph said unto his father:

"O my father! Lo! I saw in a dream eleven planets and the sun and the moon, I saw them prostrating themselves unto me.” (Qur’an, 12:4)


What about the Tenth Planet and Eleventh Planet?

Astronomers may have found hints of a massive, distant, still unseen object at the edge of the solar system - perhaps a 10th planet, perhaps a failed companion star - that appears to be shoving comets toward the inner solar system from an orbit 3 trillion miles away.

Two teams of scientists - one in England, one at University of Louisiana at Lafayette - independently report this conclusion based on the highly elliptical orbits of so-called “long-period comets” that originate from an icy cloud of debris far, far beyond Pluto.

As the planet - estimated to have a mass between one and 10 Jupiter’s - orbits, its gravitational wake disturbs the icy debris of the outer solar system, causing some of it to plunge toward the sun as comets. No one has yet directly observed a 10th planet, and there could still be another cause for the cluster of comets.

What’s surprising is just how far out there this supposed planet is. Both Murray and the University of Louisiana physicists put the planet in an orbit about 3 trillion miles - or half a light-year - from the sun. The nearest star is four light -years away.

To put this distance in perspective, consider a miniaturized version of the solar system in which Earth is one inch from the sun. On this scale, Pluto, the ninth planet would be a bit more than a yard from the sun. The new planet, by contrast, would be a half - mile distant.

At that great distance, the 10th planet would be too dim to see by current telescopes, although there is some hope that if it exists, the next generation of space-based infrared telescopes might be able to pick it up.

How come the unlettered prophet knew about this some 1400 years ago ??

How come an incomplete book as per many ismailis and nonismailis gives us such an astonishing facts but yet we chose to be blind ?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shiraz.virani wrote:
Quote:
There has been some discussion on the seven heavens at:

Doctrines --> the seven heavens?

http://www.ismaili.net/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2080&highlight=garden+nine+continents


Thank You maherali bhai....

THE ELEVEN PLANETS ????

Consisting of the Sun, a family of nine known planets, sixty seven satellites (moons) of the planets, millions of asteroids, and billions of comets, our Solar System is an oasis of light, heat, and life.

The inner solar system contains the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars.
The planets of the outer solar system are Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto..........“When Joseph said unto his father:

"O my father! Lo! I saw in a dream eleven planets and the sun and the moon, I saw them prostrating themselves unto me.” (Qur’an, 12:4)


What about the Tenth Planet and Eleventh Planet?

Astronomers may have found hints of a massive, distant, still unseen object at the edge of the solar system - perhaps a 10th planet, perhaps a failed companion star - that appears to be shoving comets toward the inner solar system from an orbit 3 trillion miles away.

Two teams of scientists - one in England, one at University of Louisiana at Lafayette - independently report this conclusion based on the highly elliptical orbits of so-called “long-period comets” that originate from an icy cloud of debris far, far beyond Pluto.

As the planet - estimated to have a mass between one and 10 Jupiter’s - orbits, its gravitational wake disturbs the icy debris of the outer solar system, causing some of it to plunge toward the sun as comets. No one has yet directly observed a 10th planet, and there could still be another cause for the cluster of comets.

What’s surprising is just how far out there this supposed planet is. Both Murray and the University of Louisiana physicists put the planet in an orbit about 3 trillion miles - or half a light-year - from the sun. The nearest star is four light -years away.

To put this distance in perspective, consider a miniaturized version of the solar system in which Earth is one inch from the sun. On this scale, Pluto, the ninth planet would be a bit more than a yard from the sun. The new planet, by contrast, would be a half - mile distant.

At that great distance, the 10th planet would be too dim to see by current telescopes, although there is some hope that if it exists, the next generation of space-based infrared telescopes might be able to pick it up.

How come the unlettered prophet knew about this some 1400 years ago ??

How come an incomplete book as per many ismailis and nonismailis gives us such an astonishing facts but yet we chose to be blind ?




STOP plagiarism, viru! you have a very bad habit of plagiarism, taking stuff from other website, and not even having a bit of courtesy to give credit to the source.

For other commentators, please see full article at the below link:


http://ethicalhorizon.org/the_significance_of_astronomy_in_islam.pdf


You obviously have nothing meaningful to say from your little brain. That's why you keep stealing paragraphs from other websites... What a shame
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 Billion Alien Earths Could Exist In Our Galaxy

Our galaxy might be a bit more crowded than we've ever thought.

A new study by the scientists at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, CA predicts suggests that one out of every 37 to one out of every 70 sun-like stars may have an Earth-like planet in it's orbit, according to Space.com. These planets are at such a position that liquid water could exist on the planet's surface, according to the researchers.

That means there could be billions of Earth-like planets just in the Milky Way Galaxy.

In February, the Kepler telescope identified 1,200 possible alien worlds, 68 of which were about the size of Earth. The new data, again collected by the Kepler telescope, suggests that 1.4 percent to 2.7 percent of all stars in the galaxy could be expected to have Earth-like planets in the appropriate zones, according to UPI.

But there may be even more life out there, in other galaxies.

From Space.com :

"This means there are a lot of Earth analogs out there -- two billion in the Milky Way galaxy," researcher Joseph Catanzarite, an astronomer at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, told SPACE.com. "With that large a number, there's a good chance life and maybe even intelligent life might exist on some of those planets. And that's just our galaxy alone -- there are 50 billion other galaxies."

The same scientists predict that about 12 Earth-like worlds will be discovered after three to four years of Kepler data is analyzed, according to Space. Four have already been seen in the few months of data already released.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/23/2-billion-alien-earths_n_839653.html
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr2QwcSTZVw&feature=related

Mysterious world giants

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtPbSxa3VQo&feature=related

watch all 3 parts icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UFO Secrets of the Ancient Aliens

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j69g1DIkyc4&feature=related
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THE GREAT YEAR

This is a video explaining the 24,000 year cycle as per Swami Yukteshwar's theory.

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/33373/THE_GREAT_YEAR/

Great to watch!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
THE GREAT YEAR

This is a video explaining the 24,000 year cycle as per Swami Yukteshwar's theory.

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/33373/THE_GREAT_YEAR/

Great to watch!


Thanks for the link maherali bhai....Enjoyed and learned every bit of it , thanks once again !!!
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