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shiraz.virani



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:00 pm    Post subject: UFO / Alien Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql1PPkZiHl8

On 7th August 1996,NASA (1) scientists made an announcement that made front page headlines throughout the world.Within a Martian meteorite,they had found evidence of a microscopic lifeform that may have existed on Mars more than three billion years ago. (2) Although other studies were later published which challenged this conclusion, (3) numerous recent discoveries,for example,the discovery by the Galileo spacecraft, (4) in February 1997,of a possible red-coloured sea under the ice crust of Jupiter's moon,Europa, (5) are raising hopes that we may soon be able to get an answer to one of the oldest and most interesting questions asked by humans-"Is anyone out there,or are we alone in the universe?"

However,it may be that none of us may live to see the day when scientists will give us a definitive answer to this question.For Muslims,that should not be a problem.We already have the answer.Although many Muslims are unaware of the fact,the Quran (6) explicitly mentions the existence of extraterrestrial life.

The existence of creatures of a spiritual nature,such as angels,in the universe,is accepted as a fact by all Muslims,as well as people of other religions, such as Christians.The point that generates excitement among the public,and scientists is the question of whether material lifeforms like ourselves,which can be found by science,do actually exist outside the earth. (7) The objective of this article is to present evidence from the Quran for the existence in the universe,of MATERIAL lifeforms ("Life as we know it").

"Dabbatun"
In Sura 42,Verse 29 (42:29) of the Quran,we are told, "Among His (God's) signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth,and the living creatures that He has scattered through them :and He has power to gather them together when He wills." (icon_cool.gif Before proceeding further,a point or two must be noted.The word "sama",translated "heavens",is also the Arabic for "sky".One may object that the verse refers to creatures in the sky (which would be birds),not in the heavens.However,birds are mentioned seperately from creatures of the heavens in 24:41, "Seest thou not that it is God Whose praise all beings in the heavens and on earth do celebrate,and the birds (of the air) with wings outspread?..." (9) In a note to 42;29,Muhammad Asad states,"In the Quran,the expression "the heavens and earth" invariably denotes the universe in its entireity." (10) The Quran mentions that inanimate objects also worship God:"Do they not look at God's creation, (even) among (inanimate) things- how their (very) shadows turn round,from right to left,prostrating themselves to God..."(16:4icon_cool.gif. (11) Therefore,may not the creatures spoken of in 42:29 in the heavens,be inanimate creatures of God.No.The next verse,16:49 goes, "And to God doth obeisance all that is in the heavens and earth,whether moving (living) creatures or the angels...". (12) The word translated "living creatures" here is the same as that in 42:29- "Dabbatun".Comments Asad,"The word dabbah denotes any sentient,corporeal being capable of spontaneous movement and is contrasted here with the non-corporeal,spiritual beings designated as "angels" ". (13) In other words,42:29 is referring to precisely the type of lifeforms that science is searching for,not some metaphysical entities.Yusuf Ali says,"Dabbatun:beasts,living,crawling creatures of all kind." (14) This is the same word used in 2:164,"...in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth...are signs for a people that are wise," (15) and in 24:45,"And God has created every animal from waterf them are some that creep on their bellies;some that walk on two legs;and some that walk on four. God creates what he wills..." (16) Commenting on 42:29,Allama Shabbir Ahmad Usmani says,"From the verse it appears that like on the earth,there are some kinds of animals- living creatures- in the heavens also." (17) On the same verse,Yusuf Ali comments, "Life is not confined to our one little Planet.It is a very old speculation to imagine some life like human life on the planet Mars...it is reasonable to suppose that Life in some form or other is scattered through some of the millions of heavenly bodies scattered through space." (1icon_cool.gif From such remarks,the reader will realize that Muslim scholars are well aware of the fact that 42:29 clearly mentions the existence of aliens.

Is there any alien intelligent life ?
Although the discovery of any form of life outside the earth would be dramatic,humankind is especially interested in knowing whether there is any alien intelligent life in the universe.NASA previously had a program on the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI).Although now scrapped due to budget cuts, private SETI organizations (19) have now been made which continue the search.The Planetary Society, (20) a private organization,in which the film director Steven Speilberg (21) is a member of the Board of Directors,has the largest SETI program in the world.So far, no sign of alien intelligent life has turned up.Can the Quran provide an answer?

Sura 27:65 commands,"Say:None in the heavens or on earth, except God,knows what is hidden:nor can they perceive when they shall be raised up (for Judgement)." (22) This shows that,like humans,there are other creatures in the universe that will also be raised from the dead.We are told in 19:93-96,"Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to (God) Most Gracious as a servant.He does take an account of them (all),and hath numbered them (all) exactly.And everyone of them will come to Him singly on the Day of Judgement.On those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, will (God) Most Gracious bestow love." (23) From these verses we learn that there are alien lifeforms that,like us,will also be judged according to the works that they do during their lives.Among them are the believers.Therefore,naturally,there will also be those aliens who are unbelievers.The believers will be rewarded.The lifeforms being descibed in the above verses can hardly be expected to be microorganisms.The Quran is referring to creatures of a level of development that makes them morally accountable beings.They must be organisms possessing qualities which we would ascribe to intelligent lifeforms.

In Sura 72:14-15,jinn (a type of spiritual lifeform,which the Quran mention as living on the earth) say,"Amongst us are some that submit their wills (to God),and some that swerve from justice.Now those who submit their wills- they have sought out (the path) of right conduct:But those who swerve- they are (but) fuel for Hell-fire." (24) The Quran mentions that good jinn will be rewarded with Paradise.Summing up from all the above verses,it is clear that Judgement Day is for creatures in the whole universe (Sura 39:68-"The Trumpet will (just) be sounded when all that are in the heavens and on earth will swoon, except such as it will please God (to exempt).Then will a second one be sounded,when,behold,they will be standing and looking on!") (25) and like jinn,aliens will also be sharing Paradise and Hell with humans.In fact,the Quran mentions that Paradise is of a size like that of our present universe- 57:21,"Therefore (vie) with one another for the pardon of your Lord,and for a Paradise as vast as heaven and earh, prepared for those who believe in Allah and His apostles." (26) Therefore, it is not surprising that when we are sharing this universe with aliens,we should share Paradise and Hell with them too.The Quran shows us,therefore,that not only do aliens exist,but among them are also intelligent beings.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4CYcp5wObs&feature=related
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jerusalem UFO and Rider on a White Horse in Cairo are Signs of Maitreya, the World Teacher


LOS ANGELES, Feb. 9, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Two miraculous phenomena have recently been seen by millions worldwide on television and the internet: a glowing UFO hovering over Jerusalem's Temple Mount, and an ethereal figure in white riding a white horse through the crowds gathered in Tahrir Square in Cairo, Egypt, captured on video.

The UFO was filmed by at least three different witnesses. The Sydney Morning Herald reported: "Perhaps more intriguing is the fact it was shot from various angles that all seem to be in sync, particularly at the moment when the object flies upwards at high speed." UK's Channel 4 News noted that the videos appear to show "the exact same ball of light" and that "the mystery deepens as flying is forbidden above the sacred site, so the light cannot come from a plane."

What do these phenomena mean? Who is creating them? What is their significance at this time of crisis and change?

According to Benjamin Creme, artist, author and lecturer, these are two of many signs or miracles which herald the emergence into public life of Maitreya, the World Teacher.

On 14 January 2010 Benjamin Creme announced that Maitreya had, for the first time, appeared (incognito) on television. Since then he has appeared 29 times in the USA, and more interviews are expected soon in the Americas, Japan, Europe and the rest of the world.

According to Benjamin Creme's Master, the UFO in Jerusalem was one of the four 'stars' seen around the world since December 2008 that herald Maitreya's open emergence. He also confirms that the Rider on the White Horse was a blessing from Maitreya to show the immensity of what the Egyptian people are doing, and that he is with them in their struggle for justice and freedom. Maitreya has often appeared as the Rider on a White Horse – an age-old symbol for a teacher to come. Many now expect the return of their awaited Teacher, whether they call him the Christ, Messiah, the fifth Buddha, Krishna, Kalki Avatar or the Imam Mahdi.


Video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUDB9be0d00&feature=watch_response


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyTehM92hi8
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shiraz.virani wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUDB9be0d00&feature=watch_response


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyTehM92hi8


Amazing! Thanks for sharing...

Hitherto miracles have been classified as individual and personal. However, these videos clearly illustrate that miracles can also be 'public'.

In Ginans the 'mounting of the horse' is referred to as 'aswaari'. For example in the Ginan Mein Waari Waari Satgur Taoun Balhaari
By: Pir Ghofte Hasaan Shaah it is stated:

Eeji Eso ginan Pir Ghofte Hasaan Shaah
Saami raajo karo aswaari...Mein waari...8


Meaning:

This Ginan is uttered by Pir Hassan Shah, O lord mount the horse (to liberate and protect)...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Lazar passes lie detector test !!

If you’re not familiar with Bob Lazar’s story, it’s definitely one to get caught up on. This gentleman has been through hell and back in order to simply tell his story of working as a reverse engineer on UFO technology at Area 51.

He has suffered all types of harassment from ‘men in black’, had bits of his past erased from existence to try to break down his credibility, etc. Here’s a little tidbit I’m glad to see. I’m a personal fan of his and can’t wait to meet him some day! Mr. Lazar, I’ve got two thumbs up for you sir!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtSzLsGT5Ys&feature=player_embedded#at=90
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks meherali !

The story of a man riding on a white horse goes back during the medival times ....even in bible it says that when the gates of heaven open there comes a man riding on a white horse blazing fire....then we have imam ali[as] as per shia islam


Ezekiel 26:11

The hoofs of his Horses will trample all your streets; he will kill your people with the sword, and your strong pillars will fall to the ground.

Revelation 6:8

I looked, and there before me was a pale Horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

Revelation 19:11

[The Rider on the White Horse] I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white Horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war.

Revelation 19:14

The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white Horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean.

Revelation 19:19

Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the Horse and his army.

Revelation 19:21

The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the Horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dome of the Rock UFO traced to Krak des Chevaliers hangar in Syria

Tel Aviv - (Pie-In-The-Sky): Erected in 1031 on a massive meteorite outcrop the ancient Crusader fortress forms the capstone of an alien civilization's subterranean silo.

Last week a mystery UFO above Israel's Dome of the Rock was traced to a hangar beneath the Krak des Chevaliers where its mothercraft launchpad is suspected of being hidden.

The stunning UNESCO World Heritage Site, known locally as Qal'at al-Hisn, stands on a 650-metre-high mound close to the Lebanese border in West Syria's Homs Governorate.

Built on strategic ley lines crisscrossing the Futile - er...Fertile! Crescent's UFO rat run the Krak may have been designed to preserve pre-Atlantean space travel secrets.

UNESCO archaeologists believe the fortified stronghold is one of a matrix of ancient Knights Hospitaliers fortresses - whose true purpose has long been covered up in a defensive campaign of concealment.

It may also shield the existence of a flooded, sunken 5th century BC palace under nearby Lake Homs, whose waters are fed by the Orontes River.

Known for centuries as the Draco this ancient fluvial passage is named after the northern sky's circumpolar constellation, suspected by 2nd century astronomer Ptolemy 'of being the seedbed of Earth's ancient forebears'.

Curiously the Hospitaliers' heraldic crest, emblazoned on the Krak's castellated portcullis, depicts the blue disc symbol of the Cat's Eye Nebula, part of Draco's awesome galactic territory.

Officially the space phenomenon was not discovered until 1786 when William Herschel first stumbled upon it with his primitive makeshift telescope.

The same blue disc was spotted on the Dome of the Rock UFO last week during its passage tracing the umbral shadow of the January 4th 2011 solar eclipse...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puma Punku [Ancient Aliens]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ndvGrqscuY
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shiraz.virani wrote:
Puma Punku [Ancient Aliens]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ndvGrqscuY


Very interesting and amazing! This confirms Swami Sri Yukteshwar’s theory of cyclical progress of mankind’s mental capacity. I have posted this theory at:

Pre-Adam --> time period of jugs and avatar

In essence it states that mankind progresses and regresses in cycles of 24,000 years. The cycle of 24,000 is divided into 2 parts of 12,000 years comprising the four eras or yugas - Karta, Treta, Duapur, Kaliyuga. Greatest progress was made in Karta Yuga (4800 years) and then gradually there was regression into Treta Yuga (3600 years) followed by Duapur Yuga (2400 years) and finally the Kali Yuga (1200 years) – the darkest age.
These 12,000 years comprise the descending cycle of progress.

After hitting the bottom there is progress from Kali Yuga (1200 years) to Duapur Yuga (2400 years) to Treta Yuga (3600 years) and finally Karta Yuga ( 4800 years) – the most enlightened age.

According to calculations we are in the ascending Duapur Yuga. Hence some 5000 - 13000 years ago in the descending cycle mankind was far most advanced then the present age.

This explains the superiority of mankind in ages many millenniums ago. In a way we have descended from mankind who were far superior than us.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you once again meherali !

Now that we are talking about hinduism, I wanna show you this video of DWARKA the actual residing place of lord krishna that was found underneath the sea in INDIA icon_wink.gif

Lemme repeat myself again , finding DWARKA for hindus is jus like finding AgaKhans residence for ismailis !!

One thing is for sure !! ....Lord Krishna was for real and not just a fairy tale icon_smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPiQrkkIKMk
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And also since we are talking about cycles I also want you to check this out as well !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7dbeb8R0kA&feature=related
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ufo caught on film !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlLN_Jcg1pc
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UFO Made in Germany ????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVIZbASulC0
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shiraz.virani wrote:
UFO Made in Germany ????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVIZbASulC0



I guess you should watch startrek/starwar, you'll get fascinated. You seem a man of si fi, more than anything else, viru....
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shiraz,
I watch all of your videos thanks for sharing with us, ("AS I WROTE EARLIER THAT SHIRAZ'S SOME POSTS ARE VERY INFORMATIVE" this one is definitely informative and your inputs are great) but the most video which fascinate me more is the under water discoveries, that show that human being are not just 5-6 thousand years old as most of scholars believe but human being was here before 5-6 thousands years but it was existed before and destroyed. This video is the solid proof of 4 cycles and evolutionary and evolutionary process which take place after certain period of time, THIS IS ALSO GOOD PROOF THAT THERE WERE MORE THAN ONE ADAMS ( PLEASE READ OUR GINANS)
Our ginans are loaded with the theory of evolution and devolution which absolutely match with the theories of Hindu Scriptures, Vedas and Purans. interesting scholars should read these scriptures to compare with our Ginanic theory.
ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT THERE IS ALWAYS DAY AFTER NIGHT OR YOU CAN SAY NIGHT AFTER DAY, here Day represent evolution and night represent devolution.
Once again thanks for sharing these videos.
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