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avrozmaredia



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have learned that people who marry in Ismaili Shia Tariqah accepts religion not for allegiance of Hazrat Aly and Rasul Nabi Muhammad but for SAKE OF MARRIAGE.

We need Quality (believers) not quantity (betrayers).
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imam has said only Allah can judge.
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avrozmaredia



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Imam has said only Allah can judge.


That's true because Imam knw better than all. I'll keep in mind.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:08 am    Post subject: Marriage between other Shia Muslims Reply with quote

YAM,
I am a Shia Muslim. I was born and raised an Ithna Asheri but have been dating an Ismaili for over 2 years now. As time goes on and we become more serious, the next step is obviously to sanctify the relationship in matrimony. However, I am facing various issues amongst both communities. My biggest issue right now is that many people tell me it's not okay for an Ismaili to marry a non-Ismaili. Is this true? In doing my own research, I have learned a lot about MHI and the beautiful religion of Ismailism...so much that I have become interested in converting. I have attended various Ismaili events, whether they be sports tournaments, community picnics, or lectures regarding MHI. Obviously, I have never attended Jamat Khana, but inshAllah one day. However, one thing that confuses me is that MHI always preaches unity and to love our fellow Muslim brethren. If this is a universal message, then why is it not ok for an Ismaili to marry a non-Ismaili (specifically, an Ithna Asheri Muslim)? I'm not saying I would be against converting, I am simply very interested in knowing the truth behind the statement. Every time I ask somebody I get a different or less-than-satisfying answer.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: Marriage between other Shia Muslims Reply with quote

akaz90 wrote:
YAM,
I am a Shia Muslim. I was born and raised an Ithna Asheri but have been dating an Ismaili for over 2 years now. As time goes on and we become more serious, the next step is obviously to sanctify the relationship in matrimony. However, I am facing various issues amongst both communities. My biggest issue right now is that many people tell me it's not okay for an Ismaili to marry a non-Ismaili. Is this true? In doing my own research, I have learned a lot about MHI and the beautiful religion of Ismailism...so much that I have become interested in converting. I have attended various Ismaili events, whether they be sports tournaments, community picnics, or lectures regarding MHI. Obviously, I have never attended Jamat Khana, but inshAllah one day. However, one thing that confuses me is that MHI always preaches unity and to love our fellow Muslim brethren. If this is a universal message, then why is it not ok for an Ismaili to marry a non-Ismaili (specifically, an Ithna Asheri Muslim)? I'm not saying I would be against converting, I am simply very interested in knowing the truth behind the statement. Every time I ask somebody I get a different or less-than-satisfying answer.

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YAM, as per the many posts in this thread, I think the main issue about marriage between an Ismaili and a non-Ismaili would be how to deal with raising the children. Have you thought about it? If so what are your thoughts?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage between other Shia Muslims Reply with quote

Thank you for the response. Yes, we have discussed it and the conclusion was that the children would be raised as Ismailis, because I will convert. But my initial question is, if one is to not convert, why is it taboo for an Ismaili to marry a non-Ismaili.

Thank you for your time.
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avrozmaredia



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: Marriage Reply with quote

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Thank you for the response. Yes, we have discussed it and the conclusion was that the children would be raised as Ismailis, because I will convert. But my initial question is, if one is to not convert, why is it taboo for an Ismaili to marry a non-Ismaili.

Thank you for your time.


People who marry Non-Ismaili mostly (not all of them) leave their faith for sake of marriage and breaks up allegiance with our Imam. It is a Gunah-e-kabira to break allegiance.

But, if he/she like to practice faith even after marriage then problem arises is as posted by Maher bhai
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YAM, as per the many posts in this thread, I think the main issue about marriage between an Ismaili and a non-Ismaili would be how to deal with raising the children.


It is an better option to get convert into ismaili. In Alwaez Abu Aly Waez i hear that one should practice ismaili faith for 6-12 months and then decide to accept it or not.

I have also hear in waez that Maulana Hazar Imam said to Abu Aly missionary that he dont like conveying marriages.

In this matter, it is best to take opinion of Religious Scholar or Missionaries.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: Marriage between other Shia Muslims Reply with quote

akaz90 wrote:
Thank you for the response. Yes, we have discussed it and the conclusion was that the children would be raised as Ismailis, because I will convert. But my initial question is, if one is to not convert, why is it taboo for an Ismaili to marry a non-Ismaili.

Thank you for your time.
I don't think it is taboo anymore. MHI during his GJ visits to the Jamats met with non-Ismaili spouses. So long as the interests of children are taken care of there is no issue of inter-marriages.
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