ya ali madad

alnor · Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 2

I want to know the status of non ismaili spouse in ismaili community is there any source from where I can learn more on the above topic. Specially right now I want to know - Do a non ismaili spouse have right to say YA ALI MADAD to her ismaili family memeber? appreciate your reply

shamsu · Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 646

alnor · Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 2

Thanks Shamshu
for your reply but I want some artical, wiaz, books or ismaili website which says that anybody can say YA ALI MADAD
I want this because I want to show it to some narrow minded ismailies, who are creating very discriminative impression of ismailism in other communities.

Thanks once again

shamsu · Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 646

Ya Aly Madad Alnoor,

You see Aly and Mowla are both names of Allah so it stands to reason that anybody that believes in "The Most High" (ALY) and "The Protector"(MOWLA) can wish Ya Aly Madad and Mowla Aly Madad.

What you are asking is for someone in authority to say it's OK for anyone to say Ya Aly Madad and Mowla Aly Madad.

Imam is described as the first Reason. The first cause.

If reason indicates it's OK then in my opinion it is as if Mowla indicates it is OK.

This is my opinion as a reasonable Ismaili.

If you cannot explain with reason, then it is futile discussing it with unreasonable people.

With unreasonable people it is best to not engage and if you have to refrain from wishing them YAM or MAM then it is reasonable to do so.

I do not know any website or book but I will say one thing Imam Aga Aly Shah has a Farman "Je kai cche, te Ya Aly cche" Now with this Farman in mind how can you not say YA ALY MADAD / MOWLA ALY MADAD

YA ALY MADAD
SHAMS

star_munir · Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Posts: 1602

Non Ismaili shias says Ya Ali Madad when they meet each other.

roxy · Joined: 18 May 2003 Posts: 95

Ali is Allah so one should say Yaa Ali Madad. Ismaili takes help and advice of Allah/Mawlana Hazar Imam in all matters. Without Yaa Ali Madad there is no As Salaam Alaikum. Also deedar is important. Quran reveals people used to seek the face of the lord morning and evening and quran reveals lord is allah.

star_munir · Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Posts: 1602

THOSE NON ISMAILIS WHO ARE SHIA SAY YA ALI MADAD. THEY SAY AS SALAM WA ALIKUM BUT THEY ALSO SAY YA ALI MADAD.
IN SOME FILMS ACTOR SAY YA ALI MADAD FOR EXAMPLE IN FILM TUM KO NA BHOOL PAYEEN GE [SALMAN KHAN AND DIA MIRZA] SALMAN KHAN SAID YA ALI MADAD AND WAS SUCCESFUL BY ASKING HELP FROM ALI.IN FILM AMAR AKBAR ANTHONY RISHI KAPOOR SAID YA ALI MADAD.

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