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t4tak3lo



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:26 am    Post subject: Nade Ali Reply with quote

YAM,

What is the background/history on the Nade Ali prayer and when should it be used?

Thanks


Adil
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star_munir



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Background of Naad-e-Ali:
In the battle of Khyber muslims were unable to defeat jews and were in great trouble. There was no one who was able to conquer it.Hazrat Ali was not feeling well thats why He was not in battlefield. Kafirs were making celebrations that they are winning and many people among muslims were hypocrites. At that time Jibrail came and said Hazrat Muhammad [PBUH] Naad-e-Ali and Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] said and Hazrat Ali came immediately and the door of fort, which even 60 men were unable turn it, was broken by Hazrat Ali and He killed thousands of enemies with Zulfiqar.
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t4tak3lo



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you star_munir,<BR><BR>Are there specific times we can use this prayer? ie. o&shy;nly in specific circumstances? Or can it be used anytime?<BR><BR>Thank you.<BR><BR><P><BR>Adil</P>
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star_munir



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are welcome. There are not any specific timings or specific cicumstance under which one can recite it. It can be said any time in any kind of problem. As it is in it,"All worries and sorrows will disappear by His help." That means we can say it in any kind of problem and even if some one is not in problem and think that some thing is giong to be bad with him or her can say it.
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lilchimpmunk



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The idea is that every Ismaili should know Nade Ali. This can help them through their most toughest time in their life. I know this because I have used the Salwat and Nade Ali before any big performance or just planly when waking up or sleeping. It provides your heart to fill the joy of being an ismaili and there are many benifits.
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aminpunjani



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:13 am    Post subject: nadeali Reply with quote

v can recite nad e ali any time and every where....it gives u spiritual feeling.....and make ur problem easier.....
byettc have a ncie day
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Irfan_Kadiwal



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: nadeali Reply with quote

aminpunjani wrote:
v can recite nad e ali any time and every where....it gives u spiritual feeling.....and make ur problem easier.....
byettc have a ncie day


Hi,

YAA ALI MADAD

I would like to correct you upon your views.

Nade-Ali is not a Tasbi which you can recite any time anywhere.

It is very special Tasbi and should be recited only under Special circumstances.(e.g in deep trouble or pain for which there seems to be no solution).

There is another tasbi 'YAA RABAL AABE GARDA....'
even this is similarly a very special tasbi.

Salwat you can recite anytime & anywhere.

THE REASON why you should not recite it anytime is

'It is said that MOWLA feels pain (symbolically) when you recite such powerful tasbis'

Regards,
Irfan
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star_munir



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Naad-e-Ali we just ask help from Imam. I dont think if we ask help from Him then we are giving Him pain.
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t4tak3lo



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: nadeali Reply with quote

YAM Irfan,

You mentioned a tasbhi called 'YAA RABAL AABE GARDA....' Can you please elaborate on this? Do you have the full wording and meaning?

I've been looking around for it, but no one seems to know what it is. I have heard that it is a powerful prayer as well.

If you do not feel comfortable posting it here, kindly email with the text.

Regards,


Adil
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Irfan_Kadiwal



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: nadeali Reply with quote

t4tak3lo wrote:
YAM Irfan,

You mentioned a tasbhi called 'YAA RABAL AABE GARDA....' Can you please elaborate on this? Do you have the full wording and meaning?

Regards,

Adil


Hi Adil
YAA ALI MADAD.

Sorry for the delayed response i wasn't checking the posts on the board anyways my situation is the same as yours even i don't know the meaning of the tasbi but i can tell u the compelete words...

YAA RABAL AABE GARDA BAHAK SHAE MARDA , BAHAK SHAE MARDA YAA RABAL AABE GARDA

Its like repeating the first part again in the reverse way.
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parvezsm



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:34 am    Post subject: NADE ALI..... Reply with quote

Hi,YAM & thnx to all those who have posted their replies earleir on this topic.

However, I would be glad if some one can provide the full meaning of Nade ali.... - and also,word to word.
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Akbar(Khan)



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: NADE ALI..... Reply with quote

parvezsm wrote:
Hi,YAM & thnx to all those who have posted their replies earleir on this topic.

However, I would be glad if some one can provide the full meaning of Nade ali.... - and also,word to word.



Naadey Ali! Nade Ali!
Naadey Aliyyan
Mazharal Ajayeb
Tajidahu Aunun Laka Finnwaeb
Kullu Hamin wa Gamin Sayanjali
Bi Wilayatika


Ya Ali! Ya Ali! Ya Ali!
Call Ali! Call Ali!
Call aloud to Ali
Who is the epiphanic source of wonders
You shall surely find him helping in your troubles
All grief and anxiety will disappear
By Your power and Authority!
O Ali! O Ali! O Ali!

"Hazrat Ali was never defeated in a war or a combat throughout his life. His physical strength was beyond human comprehension. He removed from the hinges the strong doors of the Khyber fort with a single jolt of his hand. Later, seven strong men with Abu Ra'fe', the famous strongman, could not lift even an inch from the ground one of the corners of the door. When asked about his wonderful display of strength, in removing the doors, Hazrat Ali replied that it was his divine power." (Sayyidul Ausiya, p. 65)
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Virgo2



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:22 pm    Post subject: Nad E Ali Reply with quote

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Ya Rab Bala Bé-garda Bé-Haqqé Shah-é- Marda


This is how I understand the meaning of the above tasbih.

Oh Rab remove my calamities in the name of my Master Ali.
or

O Allah I ask you for your help - please come to my help and I am beseeching you in the name of my Master Ali !"

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Admin



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Nad E Ali Reply with quote

Virgo2 wrote:
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Ya Rab Bala Bé-garda Bé-Haqqé Shah-é- Marda


This is how I understand the meaning of the above tasbih.

Oh Rab remove my calamities in the name of my Master Ali.
or

O Allah I ask you for your help - please come to my help and I am beseeching you in the name of my Master Ali !"

Virgo2


???I don't see your translation in this sentence. Where do you see "O Allah etc..." Shah e Marda is the title of Hazrat Ali who is also known as Mowla "Mushkil Khusha". Unless you mean Ali is Allah therefore you can replace one by the other in your translation.
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Virgo2



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Where do you see "O Allah etc...""



Ya Rab equals "Oh Allah". We normally use Rab for Allah.

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