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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject: How Islamic are Muslim Countries? Reply with quote

How Islamic are Muslim Countries?

Ireland 'leads the world in Islamic values as Muslim states lag'
Ireland best embodies the Islamic values of opportunity and justice, according to a survey by a leading US academic
Ireland embodies Islamic beliefs, according to survey
Ireland best embodies Islamic beliefs, according to survey Photo: Rex (file photo: County Kerry, Ireland)
Damien McElroy

By Damien McElroy, Foreign Affairs Correspondent

1:16PM BST 10 Jun 2014

The Koran's teachings are better represented in Western societies than in Islamic countries, which have failed to embrace the values of their own faith in politics, business, law and society, a leading academic at George Washington University has said.

A study of 208 countries and territories has found that the top countries in both economic achievement and social values are Ireland, Demark, Luxembourg and New Zealand. Britain also ranks in the top ten.

The first Muslim-majority nation is Malaysia ranking at 33, while the only other state in the top 50 is Kuwait at 48.

Hossein Askari, an Iranian-born professor of International Business and International Affairs at George Washington University, said Muslim countries used religion as an instrument of state control. He said: “We must emphasise that many countries that profess Islam and are called Islamic are unjust, corrupt, and underdeveloped and are in fact not ‘Islamic’ by any stretch of the imagination.

“Looking at an index of Economic Islamicity, or how closely the policies and achievements of countries reflect Islamic economic teachings - Ireland, Denmark, Luxembourg, Sweden, the United Kingdom, New Zealand, Singapore, Finland, Norway, and Belgium round up the first 10”.
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“If a country, society, or community displays characteristics such as unelected, corrupt, oppressive, and unjust rulers, inequality before the law, unequal opportunities for human development, absence of freedom of choice (including that of religion), opulence alongside poverty, force, and aggression as the instruments of conflict resolution as opposed to dialogue and reconciliation, and, above all, the prevalence of injustice of any kind, it is prima facie evidence that it is not an Islamic community,” he said.

An Overall Islamicity Index analysing social rules and human rights measures found that similar rankings were generated in 2010.

"New Zealand, Luxembourg, Ireland, Iceland, Finland, Denmark, Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, and the Netherlands; and again only Malaysia (3icon_cool.gif and Kuwait (4icon_cool.gif make it into the top 50 from Muslim countries,” he said. “Islam is, and has been for centuries, the articulation of the universal love of Allah for his creation and for its unity, and all that this implies for all-encompassing human and economic development."
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New Zealand reflects “Islamic values much more than Muslim countries”
by SB on April 12, 2018 at 12:30pm

went to the West and saw Islam, but no Muslims;
I got back to the East and saw Muslims, but no Islam.

Mohammad Abduh End of quote:

A reader sent me a link to a website called that makes an extraordinary claim about New Zealand: Quote:

The indices show that Western countries, especially those of Northern Europe, Canada and New Zealand, reflect Islamic values much more than do Muslim countries. End of quote.

The Islamicity Indices were launched in 2007 and have received publicity in many Muslim countries. According to them, New Zealand has the highest ranking in the entire world for reflecting what they refer to as Islamic values. This may mean that New Zealand is now being promoted throughout the Islamic world as the best western country in the world for Muslims to immigrate to.

The indices work out the score they allocate to each country by assigning a value to:

legal and governance
human and political rights and
international relations.

Latest Indices: 2016 (2017 Indices Available by May 31)

It is not clear which Islamic sect is behind the indices. Quote:

These indices are based on the teachings of the Qur’an and the life and practice of the Prophet Mohammad and serve as an indication of the degree of compliance with Islamic teachings as reflected in the Islamic landscape of a community. End of quote.

In a video, they mention some of the Islamic values they are referring to. Their concern is that inside actual Muslim countries there is a disconnect between these so-called Islamic values and what the Muslims there are actually experiencing.

The Islamic values mentioned are not moral values but are, instead, the cultural values of justice, sharing and equality, freedom, freedom of religion and, finally, economic prosperity.

These are some of the values that the indices are referring to when they state that Muslims in New Zealand are complying with them better than Muslims anywhere else in the world. Perhaps it is a recognition that there is more justice under the western legal system than there is under Islamic sharia law and that western countries have better economies and better personal and religious freedom than Islamic countries.

We certainly have strong values of equality in New Zealand apart from the sexual segregation inside some of our public swimming pools and the sexual segregation already enforced inside Islamic schools and mosques.

The Islamicity Foundation has a detailed plan to develop their organisation in order to: Quote:

Disseminate the ongoing results of Islamicity Indices (policy successes and failures of each Muslim country and their institutional shortcomings) through existing and to-be-formed organizations in all Muslim countries. In the process, the foundation will build a vast global community of Muslims who internalize the teachings of the Qur’an and support peaceful reforms and effective institutions. As a result, rulers and clerics would no longer be in a position to dismiss the participation of such an informed global community of Muslims who have the moral support of millions of Muslims and non-Muslims around the world.End of quote.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the articles was posted under "Perception of Islam".
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