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Who was the Imam that succeeded Krishna?
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a786



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:51 am    Post subject: IMAMS Reply with quote

is there anyway to obtain the old dua i'm having a tough time looking for it
thanks


kandani wrote:
Here are the names in the old dua:

Krishna
Parikhshat,
Janmejay,
Shesanand,
Satanand,
Swas Than,
Budsthan,
Vinvachhraaj,
Shri Budha (aka: Honayd)
Seth
....

According to Hindu material I have read on the web....Parikshat, Janmejay, Shesanand, and Satanand were Kings of the Pandaw lineage.

Parikshat is said to be the grandson of Arjun. However, this is the interesting part. While Parikshat was in his mothers womb, it is said that the baby was targeted by a divine weapon. Therefore, Krishna intervened and actually went inside the womb to protect the baby. When the baby was born, it was near death, but Krishna appeared physically and saved the child (he said that Light cannot be overcome by darkness). Perhaps this implies that the baby Parikshat was a being of Light? Maybe this whole story is a cover-up, and what really happened is that Parikshit is the descendant of Krishna in reality, but not in appearance, like Imam Hassan II.

In that case, the Imams after Krishna were Pandaw kings by their mother's side, but from Krishna on the father's side - unbeknownst to the public.

Anyone with more info...plz provide it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: IMAMS Reply with quote

a786 wrote:
is there anyway to obtain the old dua i'm having a tough time looking for it
thanks
Go to: Doctrines --> Imam page 1, topic Vishanapuri in this forum.
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ismaili103



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name of the Imams from Imam Shri Haw to Imam Hunaid ( Budh Avatar ) from the book of Dai Fidai Khurasani


01 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Rajab (A.S)
02 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Maj (A.S)
03 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Dharam (A.S)
04 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Tritu (A.S)
05 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Lulu (A.S)
06 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Aatu (A.S)
07 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Hiri Tukwa (A.S)
08 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Shiritu (A.S)
09 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Aatitu (A.S)
10 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Sher Anja (A.S)
11 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Jee Maro (A.S)
12 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Okra Yatu (A.S)
13 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Jahatu (A.S)
14 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Basheertu (A.S)
15 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Barsutu (A.S)
16 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Sam Tarao (A.S)
17 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Yatu (A.S)
18 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Ram Kahee (A.S)
19 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Sarangwanatu (A.S)
20 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Baritu (A.S)
21 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Kahatu (A.S)
22 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Sarha Yatu (A.S)
23 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Karsiyatu (A.S)
24 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Khadatu (A.S)
25 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Sahil Rakhee (A.S)
26 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Sarda Mahoo (A.S)
27 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Kiyou (A.S)
28 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Tukiyou (A.S)
29 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Kahetar Tuwas (A.S)
30 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Yasoowa Nahee (A.S)
31 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Tartiku (A.S)
32 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Anskheel (A.S)
33 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Tutumoo (A.S)
34 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Shiri Shang (A.S)
35 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Matfoo (A.S)
36 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Maskhajak (A.S)
37 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Kobadan (A.S)
38 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Shiri Bajan (A.S)
39 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Madjan (A.S)
40 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Bartai (A.S)
41 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Sherituwan (A.S)
42 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Khotuwan (A.S)
43 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Bar Saram (A.S)
44 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Byed Turuko (A.S)
45 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Makutu (A.S)
46 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Ajmapaal (A.S)
47 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Jasraat (A.S)
48 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Shiri Ram (A.S)
49 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Byedtu (A.S)
50 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Jyeotu (A.S)
51 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Dirtu (A.S)
52 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Shiri Kahetu (A.S)
53 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Bari Kahetu (A.S)
54 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Jee Meetu (A.S)
55 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Sataku (A.S)
56 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Timarjoo (A.S)
57 Hazrat Mowlana Imam Shirita Badku (A.S)

58 Hazrat Mowlana Hunaid ( A.S ) - Qayam Al Qiyamah

Name of the 77 patras aren't the same as in the Ginans except few, most probably these names are in Persian.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent research. We need more of those.

Equally, some of the names of our first few Imams of the Cycle of Adam are different in some manuscripts of sister satpanth branches.

It is unfortunate that each time someone comes with this kind of information, others who have no knowledge of the continuity of Imamat would try to choke the subject.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Admin wrote:
Excellent research. We need more of those.

Equally, some of the names of our first few Imams of the Cycle of Adam are different in some manuscripts of sister satpanth branches.

It is unfortunate that each time someone comes with this kind of information, others who have no knowledge of the continuity of Imamat would try to choke the subject.


1) Thanks icon_smile.gif

2) Interesting, do you have name of them, which satpanth branches?

3) This time it's from a persian source so I think THAT GUY shouldn't have any problem with it. icon_twisted.gif
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name of Imams after Imam Hunaid till Imam Abu Talib from the same persian source.

I can see alot of new names as compare to in the Vishnupuri, according to it Hazrat Ibrahim, Adam and Noah were also the Imam of the time and I can't see the name of Imam Malik us Salam/ Malchezedek in the list, or maybe it's there with a different name.




(49) Hazrat Imam Abu Talib (A.S)
(4icon_cool.gif Hazrat Imam Abdu'l-Muttalib (A.S)
(47) Hazrat Imam Hashim (A.S)
(46) Hazrat Imam Abd-e-Manaf (A.S)
(45) Hazrat Imam Qusai (A.S)
(44) Hazrat Imam Kilab (A.S)
(43) Hazrat Imam Murra (A.S)
(42) Hazrat Imam Ka'b (A.S)
(41) Hazrat Imam Luwai (A.S)
(40) Hazrat Imam Ghalib (A.S)
(39) Hazrat Imam Fehr (A.S)
(3icon_cool.gif Hazrat Imam Malik (A.S)
(37) Hazrat Imam Nazr (A.S)
(36) Hazrat Imam Kinana (A.S)
(35) Hazrat Imam Khazima (A.S)
(34) Hazrat Imam Madreka (A.S)
(33) Hazrat Imam Ilyas (A.S)
(32) Hazrat Imam Muzar (A.S)
(31) Hazrat Imam Nizar (A.S)
(30) Hazrat Imam Ma'd (A.S)
(29) Hazrat Imam Adnan (A.S)
(2icon_cool.gif Hazrat Imam Awwad (A.S)
(27) Hazrat Imam Al-Yasa' (A.S)
(26) Hazrat Imam Al-Hamis (A.S)
(25) Hazrat Imam Bunt (A.S)
(24) Hazrat Imam Sulayman (A.S)
(23) Hazrat Imam Haml (A.S)
(22) Hazrat Imam Qidar (A.S)
(21) Hazrat Imam Isma'il (A.S)
(20) Hazrat Imam Ibrahim Khalil-Ullah (A.S)
(19) Hazrat Imam Ta'rikh (A.S)
(1icon_cool.gif Hazrat Imam Tahur (A.S)
(17) Hazrat Imam Sharu (A.S)
(16) Hazrat Imam Abraghu (A.S)
(15) Hazrat Imam Taligh (A.S)
(14) Hazrat Imam Abir (A.S)
(13) Hazrat Imam Shale' (A.S)
(12) Hazrat Imam Arfakhad (A.S)
(11) Hazrat Imam Sam (A.S)
(10) Hazrat Imam Noah (A.S)
(09) Hazrat Imam Lumuk (A.S)
(0icon_cool.gif Hazrat Imam Mutu Shalkh (A.S)
(07) Hazrat Imam Akhnukh (A.S)
(06) Hazrat Imam Yarad (A.S)
(05) Hazrat Imam Mahla'il (A.S)
(04) Hazrat Imam Qinan (A.S)
(03) Hazrat Imam Anush (A.S)
(02) Hazrat Imam Seth (A.S)
(01) Hazrat Imam Adam (Takhun) Abu'l-Bashir (A.S)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ismaili103 wrote:
Admin wrote:
Excellent research. We need more of those.

Equally, some of the names of our first few Imams of the Cycle of Adam are different in some manuscripts of sister satpanth branches.

It is unfortunate that each time someone comes with this kind of information, others who have no knowledge of the continuity of Imamat would try to choke the subject.


1) Thanks icon_smile.gif

2) Interesting, do you have name of them, which satpanth branches?

3) This time it's from a persian source so I think THAT GUY shouldn't have any problem with it. icon_twisted.gif


Actually I am traveling so it is not handi. It was part of the Du'a manuscript whch said Hajar Jomo Imam Chalismo (40th Imama Nizar) so it may be Ismaili (us), Imam Shahi, Nizar Panthi, Athias... who knows. I will look at it again once I return at base.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As per this list, is it safe to say that concept of Pre Ali and Pre Adam Imamat is not only limited to the Satpanthis but it's also present in the Persian Jamat or maybe in other Jamat as well.
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