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kmaherali



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:11 am    Post subject: (jirebaire) Satgur bhetiya ne chandrune hua Reply with quote

I am looking for the transcription of the above Ginan by Sayyed Imam Shah. Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://ismaili.net/heritage/node/3756

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http://ismaili.net/ginans/transcription/part4/bhg4-078.html
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again for the quick response, I hope I can get the translation soon.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those who believe that they are living in Kali Yuga, this Ginan clearly dispels that. It states that there have been 4 Yugas populated with 15, 21, 27 & 36 crore souls. Then it states the Fartaar Velaa representing the turning of the cycle from the previous 4 Yugas to the ascending cycles of the new phase.

Translation of the appropriate verses below:

Ek jire bhaai re pahelaa Kirtaa jug maanhe
panar karodd jiv,
Siri Nar-sinh nu rup dekhi dhiaayaa 6

O brothers! In the first era of Karta Jug there were 15 crores of souls. They worshipped by observing the form of Sri Nar -sinh.

Ek jire bhaai re dash karooddd jiv aap muraadaa
jenne Gur Nar naa vaayak na maani yaa 7

O brothers! (Out of these), 10 crores were egoistic and they did not follow the guidance of the Guide.

Ek jire bhaai re paanch karodd amraapuri pohotaa,
Gur Bhramaa jine vaayke chaaliyaa 8

O brothers! 5 Crores attained paradise. They followed the guidance of the Gur Bhrama (the Pir).

Ek jire bhaai re bije Tretaa jug maanhe
ekvis karodd jiv
Siri Raam nu rup dekhi ne dhiaayaa 9

O brothers!In the second era of Treta Jug, there were 21 crore souls. They worshipped by observing the form of Sri Ram.

Ek jire bhaai re chaud karodd jiv aap muraadaa
jenne Gur Nar naa vaayak na maaniyaa 10

O brothers! 14 crores were egoistic and did not follow the guidance of the Guide.

Ek jire bhaai re saat karodd amraapuri pohotaa
Gur Vijeshtthann ne vaayke chaaliyaa 11

O brothers! 7 crores reached the eterenal abode of paradise. They acted according to the precepts of Gur Vijeshtthan.

Ek jire bhaai re trijaa Dwaapur jug maahen sataa-vis
karodd jiv,
Siri Kaan nu rup dekhi ne dhiaayaa 12

O brothers! In the third era of Dwapur Jug, there were 27 crores souls. They worshipped by observing the form of Lord Krishna.

Ek jire bhaai re addhaar karodd jiv aap muraadaa,
jenne Gur Nar naa vaayak na maaniya 13

O brothers!18 crores were followed their own desires and did not accpet the precepts of the Guide.

Ek jire bhaai re nauv karodd amraapuri pohotaa,
Gur Vidur-vyaas ne vaayake chaaliyaa 14

O brothers!9 crores attained paradise. They followed the precepts of Gur Vidur Vyas.

Ek jire bhaai re chotthaa Kaljug maanhe
chhen-tris karodd jiv
Siri Naklanki rup dekhine dhiaayaa 15

O brothers!In the 4th era of Kaljug there were 36 crores of souls. They worshipped observing the form of Sri Naklanki.

Ek jire bhaai re chovis karodd jiv gor andhaar,
jenne Gur Nar naa vaayak na maaniyaa 16

O brothers!24 crores fell into utter darkness. The ones who did not follow the guidance of the Gurnar.

Ek jire bhaai re baar karodd jiv amraapuri pohotaa
Pir Sadardin vaayake chaaliyaa 17

O brothers!12 crores attained paradise, they followed the guidance of Pir Sadardeen.

Ek jire bhaai re fartaar veraa maanhe
anant karodd jiv
Siri Islaam Shaah nu rup dekhine dhiaayaa 18

O brothers! In the era of turning (from descending Kajjug to ascending Dwapur Jug), there are countless souls. The worshipped observing the form of Sri Islam Shah.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ek jire bhaai re fartaar veraa maanhe
anant karodd jiv
Siri Islaam Shaah nu rup dekhine dhiaayaa 18

O brothers! In the era of turning (from descending Kajjug to ascending Dwapur Jug), there are countless souls. The worshipped observing the form of Sri Islam Shah.


Pir only talk about 4 jugs and fartaar vera is only a time period not a jug itself.

Yes we are now ascending towards Karta jug beacuse zahoorat is near, but this era is not it self Karta jug, its part of Kaljug, fartaar vera is part of kaljug and we will enter in Karta jug/ Sat jug after Zahoorat of Imam.

Pir had said that in kaljug 97.5 % people will be with bad deeds and evil acts. Look around you will get your answer that its Kaljug where almost everyone is bad.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ismaili103 wrote:

Pir only talk about 4 jugs and fartaar vera is only a time period not a jug itself..
Aren't you reading! In comparison to other Jugs, it is the biggest and it comprises of all Jugs to come. Instead of only a few crore souls in the other 4 Jugs, Farta Vela has countless souls.
ismaili103 wrote:

Yes we are now ascending towards Karta jug beacuse zahoorat is near, but this era is not it self Karta jug, its part of Kaljug, fartaar vera is part of kaljug and we will enter in Karta jug/ Sat jug after Zahoorat of Imam..
This is not Karta Jug but we are in the ascending Dwapur headed towards the Satya Yuga which is about 10,000 years ahead.
ismaili103 wrote:

Pir had said that in kaljug 97.5 % people will be with bad deeds and evil acts. Look around you will get your answer that its Kaljug where almost everyone is bad.
Evil is there all the time. The question you should ask is that are we better than times before. I asked you to read the artcile below.

Is Humanity Getting Better?

The world now is a thoroughly awful place, compared with what it should be. But not compared with what it was.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/02/15/is-humanity-getting-better/?emc=edit_ty_20160216&nl=opinion&nlid=71987722&_r=1
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