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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:22 am Post subject:
Mr Jiwa has NEVER filed any suit against Hazar Imam
I don't have anything against Alnaz Jiwa or Nagib Tajdin but their names were mentioned in that lawsuit therefore I thought they both were plaintiff, matter of fact I give up to read update of that lawsuit long time ago, so I was not sure who actually filed the lawsuit? who won that lawsuit? or what is the outcome of that lawsuit?! I have no idea till today, so if you know the outcome of that lawsuit please let me know.
By the way, if this lawsuit was not filled by Alnaz Jiwa or Nagib Tajdin then someone else must have to filled lawsuit, whoever filled the lawsuit it doesn't matter, but the lawsuit was filled that is 100% true and correct, I don't have any concern regarding that lawsuit or anything against plaintiff (matter of fact I was about to order that publication and I inquired about the cost via e-mail but....that announcement was made in JK so I changed my mind) but my point was that announcement were read during that time i.e. not to publish, purchase, print, fax, mail, e-mail any faramns and that is what I want to prove, matter of fact I am in favor to publish the farmans because IIS and Tariqua Board are not publishing any new farmans book, I haven't seen any new farmans books in decade.
Imam filed this lawsuit. When the Tajdin and Jiwa claimed it was not him and it was Jamati leaders, Imam himself sent them a letter. They then claimed it was forged. He ended up coming to court and said in front of them that he is the one who is suing them.
It was not Sachedina, it was Imam. Even Jiwa and Tajdin know it, they got a 15 minute "discovery" to question the Imam.
The Imam has confirmed during a 30 minutes conversation that he was the one who gave instructions to continue publishing and he has denied the lies contained in the statement of claim. If you do not know what has happened in the 30 minutes meeting, you should not try to misled others.
sorry for taking so long to reply, my password would not work and when i tried to reset my password it said user info not found, interesting..so i had to register all over again
anyways where did this 30 minute meeting take place? how come nobody knows about this? it is nowhere in the media...this lawsuit is well documented in the canadian media...it says nowhere that the Aga Khan said the letter sent from Boston was forged, it actually says that was the Imam, the link you sent is from this site, its not from any media publication, any credible media publication states that the Imam filed this lawsuit and said this in a 15 minute discover in front of Nagib and Jiwa....its all out there for everyone to read, can't make this up
The subject of this thread is "Padhramnis, Mulaquats and Didar". I will delete everything which is outside this subject.
I have already indicated where the other subject is discussed, please post there.
As for people who have no idea of what are the Instructions of the Imam to Alnaz and Nagib, there is no need to imagine and guess, the Imam knows exactly who is right ans who is wrong and he knows how this case will come to an end and nothing will happen outside his will. So all of you who are worried and stressed, chill out
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:25 am Post subject: Why? Why?? Why???
Why why why???
The Holy Quran is readily available to one and all as is the Bible, the Geeta and other scriptures. So it is really puzzling as to why there is so much reticence on the part of our leaders to make farmans, taliqas and hidaayats of our beloved Imam available even to Ismailis themselves. We are not allowed to record farmans. We are not allowed to carry pen and paper into the Darbar halls to jot down points (even lipsticks and eyeliner pencils were confiscated lest they be used to make any notes). So how are we supposed to assimilate the farmans into our daily lives? Is this not just ridiculous?! If we want to read a Farman, mukhi-kamadia sahebs and Tariqa board members hover over you like hawks making sure you are just reading and not jotting down anything. There is just no logic or sense to this. Not all of us have photographic or computer memories and I am sure the Imam would want His farmans to be made available to all jamats. So why are our leaders so possessive of these farmans? I have thought and thought about this and the only conclusion I can draw is that there is some sinister agenda behind all these restrictions on farmans. Do they want to change them and put in their own words? Or do they want to edit them and remove portions they don't like? We can think of anything now because it just does not make any sense as to why these farmans which should be the backbones of our lives are just not made available to us. And the notion that these are Mowla's directives is just ridiculous. Leaders should stop thinking we are illiterate imbeciles.
Anyway Admin hit the nail on the head: anyone who stops murids from reading and following farmans is evil (shaitaan)
And the same applies to great efforts made by leaders, that Ismailis in particular, should NOT get to see the Imam physically anywhere except in the Darbar hall. This is outrageous and WE WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS! to see the face of Ali carries the very greatest of blessings which our leaders want us to miss out on. And yet, they know everything. They know how Pir Sadardin was blocked for six months and six days for not allowing his young son, Hassan Kabirdin, to accompany him to see the Imam. They know that the Imam changed His car in Mombasa from tinted windows to untinted windows. And yet they pay no heed. Have they forgotten the miracle of City Park, Nairobi (July 2009)? Jamat was cruelly stopped from seeing the Imam and the Imam walked towards the jamat.
If I was a sincere leader, I would take heed of all this and ensure that when the Imam goes anywhere, the jamat can see Him, albeit in a dignified and decorous manner, from a distance at least. But going out of the way to stop this is EVIL and how can we then respect such evil actions?!
Leaders should take heed. If you do not change your attitudes and your ways, the Imam will find many ways in which to leave you in embarrassing positions in front of the jamat who will then just laugh at you. So please remove the tints from the cars to be used by the Imam and make farmans available readily for the jamat to keep in their homes and use in their everyday lives. Imam Sultan Mohamed Shah has said, "We should live and breathe in our faith daily." How can this be possible without having farmans to refer to at a moment's notice.
And as for trying to hide the Imam from the jamat at every possible opportunity, I promise you: you will NEVER succeed. The Imam has taken physical form just to be seen and whenever He goes anywhere He wants to be seen. Surely, the Imam is busy but no Ismaili would dare disturb the Imam during His meetings and official functions. But to see Him from the road, in His car or as He traverses through hotel lobbies should and must be allowed. This also applies when the Imam arrives at or leaves from the airport.
My advice: stop being hypocrites and putting the Imam in the position to take steps to embarrass you which He will do out of love for all of us and for which you yourselves will be responsible.
"Sache ke gale mein padi mala,
Jootho ka mu hua kaala"
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:10 pm Post subject: Another miracle
I also want to share something more. I think it was really inconsiderate of the leaders of Nairobi to keep the banquet at the Safari Park. I mean, do they not know that there are road constructions going on? They took Mowla through such terrible conditions; really they have no shame. Furthermore, at the hotel itself there were some Ismailis standing waiting to greet the motorcade. The Ismaili security did not like this and so they called for the hotel security and informed them that these Ismailis were "security threats" to His Highness Aga Khan. The hotel security then escorted the Ismailis out of the gate of the hotel, stating that they were not even allowed to spend one more minute on their grounds let alone eat at any of the other restaurants. Indignant and hurt, these Ismailis were just leaving the hotel only to be stopped a few metres away for low and behold! Mowla's motorcade had arrived. They abandoned their car and stood on the side of the road. Due to these bad road conditions, the motorcade was very slow these Ismailis managed to see the Imam who waved and smiled at them. They were so happy and the NRM did not know where to hide their faces...
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:02 pm Post subject: Sincere Appeal
Sincere appeal to all leaders and decision makers
As we rapidly approach the end of the holy month of Ramadhan, inshallah, our Imam will soon bless another jamat with a jamati visit. This is a sincere, heartfelt appeal to all leaders and decision makers of whichever jamat the Imam will bless with a visit. Please ensure that the welfare of the Imam, physical welfare of the Imam, must come FIRST and be the uppermost of the preparation agenda. That is your duty and foremost responsibility. It would be nice if the various jamati ceremonies could be contained within one venue so that the Imam is not subject to hurriedly travel from one place to another within a day. Keeping the ceremonies contained within one venue will give our beloved Imam the chance to relax in the lounge with a glass of juice or a cappuccino whilst changeover is taking place in the ceremonial halls.
It was appalling to see how Nairobi dismally failed in this regard. The Imam never had the chance to relax on any of the three days allocated for jamati ceremonies. He had to rush from one venue to another, twice a day, morning and afternoon. And the roads in between, undergoing construction, were full of dust, twists and turns and presented the most ugly views to the Imam of deep trenches, puddles etc. It was possible to have kept the ceremonies within the premises of Darkhana but this was not thought of at all. Also, the Institutional banquet was organised at a venue miles outside the city, and the Imam had to go there after a long day of jamati work, once again, through appalling roads with no street lamps and full of dips and bumps.
It really pains me to see such a lack of concern for our Imam's physical welfare. Not once did He ever go to the rest lounges and this was indeed not fair on the part of leaders and decision makers in Nairobi. And the amazing part is that when these facts are pointed out to them, the only response is "Mowla was happy so it doesn't matter now". Mowla, oft forgiving and infinitely merciful, accepted everything. He has the biggest heart, Mashallah. But that does not give us the right to make His visits difficult, tiring and cumbersome. We must be always mindful that He is not subject to even a minute of inconvenience at any time. Just arranging a police and CID escort and a bulletproof car is not everything.
Therefore this appeal is being made to leaders and decision makers of other countries which inshallah our Imam will visit soon. Learn from Nairobi's failure! Keep the Imam's physical comfort and convenience uppermost at all times. Please please please please!
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