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prince_visram



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: Ka'aba in the Ginans Reply with quote

Ya Ali Madad,

I had read somewhere on this forum that in a Ginan is says that the Ka'aba lies in a momin's heart. I was wondering from which this Ginan was referenced. I was also wondering if the Ginans mentioned anything else about the Ka'aba.

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kmaherali



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Ginan is Mune Deedar Deedhaa Mowla e by Pir Hasan Kabir al-Din. It is an unpublished one but it is quite popular and is recited often.

As far as I can recall, this is the only reference to Kaba in it.
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prince_visram



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kmaherali wrote:
The Ginan is Mune Deedar Deedhaa Mowla e by Pir Hasan Kabir al-Din. It is an unpublished one but it is quite popular and is recited often.

As far as I can recall, this is the only reference to Kaba in it.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kmaherali wrote:
The Ginan is Mune Deedar Deedhaa Mowla e by Pir Hasan Kabir al-Din. It is an unpublished one but it is quite popular and is recited often.

As far as I can recall, this is the only reference to Kaba in it.


Is there a way one can get their hands on this? with the Raag if possible?

thanks

Shams
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prince_visram



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShamsB wrote:
kmaherali wrote:
The Ginan is Mune Deedar Deedhaa Mowla e by Pir Hasan Kabir al-Din. It is an unpublished one but it is quite popular and is recited often.

As far as I can recall, this is the only reference to Kaba in it.


Is there a way one can get their hands on this? with the Raag if possible?

thanks

Shams


I'm thinking similar if possible.. Thanks by the way...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: Ka'aba in the Ginans Reply with quote

prince_visram wrote:
Ya Ali Madad,

I was also wondering if the Ginans mentioned anything else about the Ka'aba.

Thank you


And KMaherali wrote that:-

"The Ginan is Mune Deedar Deedhaa Mowla e by Pir Hasan Kabir al-Din. It is an unpublished one but it is quite popular and is recited often.

As far as I can recall, this is the only reference to Kaba in it."


Karim,
There is one more ginan "MUMAN CHETAMANI" Composed by 'SYED NUR MOHAMMAd SHAH BIN IMAM SHAH' in this ginan the word
'BAITULLAH"( another name of of Ka'ba Sharif) has been used, this is big ginan we can call it granth, here I am writing few verses
of this granth which has above word, in its original Gujarati text, its transliteration and English translation for you and for Prince_Visram quick understanding:-


એજી, તે મુરતઝા અલી અવતરિયા,
eji, te murtaza Ali avatariya
o brother, Murtaza Ali, born
અબુ તાલિબ ને ઘેર અવતાર,
Abu Talib ne gher avataar,
in the house of Abu Talib.
તે બયતુંલ્લાહ માહે પેદા થયા
te baitullah (KA'BA) mahe peda thaya,
he (was) born in Baitullah (ka'ba Sharif)
તે શહેર મક્કા મીંજાર ૭૯
te saher makka minjar
(and )the city (name) was Macca. 79
ચેતો રીખીસરો ગુર કહે સાચા સતગુરે એમ કહ્યા.
cheto rikhisaro gur kahe sacha satgure em kahya
Beware o brothers the true master said this.
All Shias believe that our first Imam Hazarat Ali was born in Baitullah ( kaaba Sharif) even Sunnies does not denied it.
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