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prince_visram



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:38 am    Post subject: Looking for Translation: Moman Mahaadan Reply with quote

Ya Ali Madad,

I am looking for the translation of the following ginan. I understand many parts due to the Gujarati text and it seems to be interesting, but I am sure the full translation will enhance my understanding greatly. Thanks.

Eji Moman maahaadan aavshe
saaheb leshe hisaab;
iyaanaa kidhaa kartav puchh-she
tyaare tolshe pun ne paap 1

Eji Pun paap to tiyaan tol-she
ane lekho saacho chhe tiyaan;
Sat Gur sathe sudhaa chaaliye
to jaal-she aapni baay 2

Eji Iyaan baany jaaliyaani laaj chhe
to aale vaikunth vaas;
ekoter agal jai bes-she
ane bes-she saaheb jine paas 3

Eji Vaikunth maanhe ek virakh chhe
tene sagddi amraapuri chaay;
tenu naam kalap virakh chhe
tame sunno moman bhaai 4

Eji Tiyaan savaamannu bhaar bhogav-sho
ane neaar nahi tiyaan hoy;
tiyaan sutaare bethaa koi nahi
tiyan jikar kare sab koi 5

Eji Tiyaan sonaani intte ghar chunaaviaa,
te maanhe chunni chhe kasturi ni ghar;
tiyaan aavaa te mohol saheb aalshe
teni shobhaa nu ant na paar 6

Eji Maannek moti-ni daddiye kunvar khelshe
sovan geddi tene haath;
Evaa paanch-so kunvar aanganne khelshe
baavaa evo chhe vaikunth vaas 7

Eji Laakh maanhe ek lakhpati
ane sehestra maanhe ek sati jaann;
je iyaan Sat Panth puro srev-she
te tiyaan padvi paame nirvaann 8

Eji Gunegaaro-ne tiyaan maar-she
ane te paaddshe bahu shor;
tene haathe page ghaale beddiyu
anni ubhaa raakhe jem chor 9

Eji Tiyaan jakh megh kinner dekhshe,
ane dekh-she paanch, saat, nauv, baar;
anant kroddi dev tiyaan dekh-she
koi nahi kare teni saar 10

Eji Bhanne Pir Imaam Shaah sunno munivaro
ane Sat Gur-e kahi saachi saankh;
sati loko Sat Panth srev-jo
tame jikar karo din ne raat 11
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kmaherali



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is posted here at:

Ginans --> translation for Moman Mahadhan Aavshe

http://www.ismaili.net/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2372&highlight=mahaadan
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kmaherali wrote:
It is posted here at:

Ginans --> translation for Moman Mahadhan Aavshe

http://www.ismaili.net/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2372&highlight=mahaadan


Thank you very much.

I also have one question - a little bit off topic - but I was wondering if the ninth avtaar "Budh Avtaar" is Budda? If not, then who was his status? Thanks
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Admin



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Bhuddah was well into this Kaljug.

Budh Awatar was at the meeting point of the previous Jug with this Jug. Budh Awatar was the father of Adam.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have one question - a little bit off topic - but I was wondering if the ninth avtaar "Budh Avtaar" is Budda? If not, then who was his status?

Good question, many scholars, some Ismaili Al-waezeen and many peoples believe that Gautam Budda was the ninth Avatar but this is not true, they need to research more , let me give some explanation in this topic as per my own research.

1,, Gautam Budda's period was as almost 2500 years ago, Buddha was born as a royal prince in 624 BC in a place called Lumbini, which was originally in northern India but is now part of Nepal. His motherís name was Queen Mayadevi and his fatherís name was King Shuddhodana. his birth name was 'SIDDHARTH' and also known as Shakyamuni after he started Buddhist religion, Ninth Avatar is totally different than this Buddha only names are same in ninth avatar and this prince Buddha and therefore lots of peoples makes mistakes.

2, The ninth avtaar was appeared after the death of 8th avatar Lord Krishna (matter of fact Shri Krishna was incanted in Buddha).

3, As per one Ginan 'PARAB PANDAVANO" of Pir Sadardin Krishna was incarnated in Buddha to teach a lesson to Pandavs right after the war of 'MAHA BHARAT, the Pandavs were agitated for the lives were killed in this war so they decided to have "YAGNA" so lord may forgive their sins but Krishan told them you do not need to have 'yagna' but just listen to me but Pandavs did not obeyed to Krishna so Krihna incarnated in Buddha avatar as per pir.

'SHRI KARSHAN RUPE KAHYO NAV MANYO,
TEH KARSHAN SHRI BUDDHA RUP J DHARIYO,
SHRI BUDDHA RUPE BIJO DHARIYO MA JAN,
SHAH NIZAR TE SAHI PRAMAN.

(PARAB PANDAVNO)

These above verses of ginan clearly tell that Lord Krishna was the Shri Buddha.

4, Buddha Avatar also call 'MALECHH RUP' 'MUSLIM RUP'

5, The Ninth Shri Buddha avatar also referred to as an 'ADAM' avatar

In addition of all these visit the link below you will find more information on all ten avatars.
http://ismaili.net/heritage/files/NoorEnAllahNoor40-80_0.pdf
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