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aminpunjani



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:06 am    Post subject: what is meant by this? Reply with quote

Whatever is, is RUH.......Imam Soultan Mohd Shah Daataar(salwaat).

Whatever is, is YA ALY...Imam Aga Aly Shah Daataar(salwaat).
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zehrabhamani



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: what is meant by this? Reply with quote

aminpunjani wrote:
Whatever is, is RUH.......Imam Soultan Mohd Shah Daataar(salwaat).

Whatever is, is YA ALY...Imam Aga Aly Shah Daataar(salwaat).

if i m geting ur question so i think dat ur ans is;
ruh is soul
n ya ali means "oh ali"
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aminpunjani



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yam<BR>thankz mam zahra<BR>bye tc
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karimqazi



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:43 am    Post subject: What is the meaning of this? Reply with quote

Ya Ali Madad To All Brothers and Sisters,

Quote:
Whatever is, is RUH.......Imam Soultan Mohd Shah Daataar(salwaat).

Whatever is, is YA ALY...Imam Aga Aly Shah Daataar(salwaat).


This is a very complex thing. Imam Aga Hasan Ali Shah by his grace, told us the basic belifs of ismailis. Since there are only two major sufi thoughts; jamali and jalali (do not know english translation). Huma ost (jamali), Huma az ost (jalali). Now in the old dua we said Ali See Allah, this means that Ali and Allah are one. Now these days we say Ali Ullah it means Ali is from Allah. In this concept the whole theory of the ismaili doctrine has changed. Thats why Imam Sultan Mohammad Shah graciously said "whatever is ruh" so we do not think about the physical body of the first Imam Ali. I am sorry i have very limited vocabulary in english so i cannot elaborate that much in english. Thanks

May Mowla Bless You All and Enlighten Your Soul.
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