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  Topic: 1975 Paris Conference documents
star_munir

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PostForum: Ismaili Law Documents and Other Historical Documents   Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:22 pm   Subject: Re: Observation and Comments on our Modern Ginanic Litteratu
http://www.ismaili.net/heritage/node/31647

Observation and Comments on our Modern Ginanic Literature

Follow-up to Paris Conference 1975. The 1980 Nairobi Ismailia Association International Revie ...
  Topic: Naklanki Gita
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Replies: 21
Views: 4574

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:34 pm   Subject: Naklanki Gita

4 Daag( What's this??)

1) Van Daag

2) Jal Daag

3) Agan Daag

4) Bhom Daag


4 Khunna (What's this??)

1) Esaan Khun

2) Agan Khun

3) Nairut Khun

4) Vaaviy Khun



These b ...
  Topic: Das Avtaar Ginan
star_munir

Replies: 6
Views: 4853

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:16 pm   Subject: Das Avtaar Ginan
Recitation of ginan depend on the reciter. There is a whole section discussing changes in the Ginans. This section is on Das Avatar. However it is important to know that:

There is an active attempt ...
  Topic: Pir Satgur Noor
star_munir

Replies: 5
Views: 5169

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:12 pm   Subject: Pir Satgur Noor
Thank you very much for sharing this
  Topic: Das Avtaar Ginan
star_munir

Replies: 6
Views: 4853

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:40 pm   Subject: Das Avtaar Ginan
There are no ginans banned by the Imam, only Man Har of Gulamali Shah was banned althouth one of the most beautiful composition existing. That particular ginan

Despite of all this, now all countri ...
  Topic: Pir Satgur Noor
star_munir

Replies: 5
Views: 5169

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:07 pm   Subject: Re: Pir Satgur Noor
The earliest Pir to have preached in India, according to the Khoja Ismaili tradition, is one named Satgur Nur
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In fact we also have few ginans written by his father Pir Salehdin I beli ...
  Topic: Man Samjhani
star_munir

Replies: 1
Views: 4282

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:19 pm   Subject: Man Samjhani
I also want to understand meaning of following paath

269 Man Samjaanni Pir Shams
1 Man Samjaanni ki esi baataa
2 Duniyaa na samje Shaah ki dhaataa
3 Nabi ke saathe huaa gulaam
4 Unkaa he Halaal ...
  Topic: Man Samjhani
star_munir

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Views: 4282

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:16 pm   Subject: Man Samjhani
Ya Ali Madad,

Can any one translate these verses of mansamjhani or explain the story mentioned in it.

67 Man Samjaanni Pir Shams
1 Man Samjaanni ki esi baataa
2 Koi na samje Gurnar ki dhaataa ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
star_munir

Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:50 am   Subject: Dait kalinga
@ Tret and Sheri,

Minutes of Paris Conference doesn't talk about approval/disapproval of the concept of avatars given in Ginan. There are no direct quotes of Imam nor even indirect mention on this ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
star_munir

Replies: 127
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PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 4:18 am   Subject: Dait kalinga
To tret,
Thanks. There are certain Ginans which mentions about das avtar in detail. They are no longer recited in Jk. However you can find them quoted in publications of IIS and scholarly works.
I ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
star_munir

Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 4:11 am   Subject: Dait kalinga

Shams:
IMAM SMS has said "Krishna & Raama" are 'Prophets.'
On this form & chart of evolution on this website "Krisha & Ram" are incarnations of Vishnu.

Now please tell me are Krisha ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
star_munir

Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 4:32 pm   Subject: Dait kalinga
To Sheri:

Thanks for quoting from Memoirs of Aga Khan. That is exactly what I was trying to convey you i.e. to think out of the box and not to limit Islam only to Beni Israel. In my previous messag ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
star_munir

Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 4:15 pm   Subject: Dait kalinga
Sorry for interruption, let me try to answer them.


1) In Quran is there any ayat that tell you that Hazrat Ali is the first Imam or He is successor of Prophet so must be followed. If not, so why ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
star_munir

Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 3:14 am   Subject: Dait kalinga
To Sheri:


I would request you not to jump on so many topics at the same time, otherwise it would be difficult to carry discussion.
First your argument was on Dajjal, second was on Vishnu and now ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
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Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 5:10 pm   Subject: Dait kalinga

The term Dajjal is mentioned in Hadith. If you dont believe in Hadith than why do you believe in Quran? How you got Quran? Did not you get it through Prophet Muhammad? If you respect Quran than resp ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
star_munir

Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 4:59 pm   Subject: Dait kalinga
nuseri - why is MHI so adamant to please the Muslims and not the Hindus. The type of Ismailism that you are advocating for would easily be acceptable in India and as part of Hinduism. Ali = Vishnu = A ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
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Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 4:53 pm   Subject: Dait kalinga
What amazes me is that some of our brothers are still so much interested in the history of hindi and I guess effort will be very well spent in understanding our own ismailie history.

I agree with y ...
  Topic: Ask Admin
star_munir

Replies: 250
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PostForum: THIS FORUM - RULES ETC   Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 12:26 am   Subject: Ask Admin
Dear Admin,
Its only a suggestion to improve quality of the forum section. Its again upto you to decide what should be done.
I think there are some members who deliberately try to change and divert ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
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Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 12:16 am   Subject: Dait kalinga
Dajjal is an interpretation that is floating around. It has not been confirmed by MHI. Furthermore, there is no mention of it in the Quran. Please provide any authentic reference to this claim that th ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
star_munir

Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 12:08 am   Subject: Dait kalinga
There is no concept of Vishnu in Islam whatsoever. Give me one source, I ask for only one reliable source that links Vishnu to Adam.


The term Vishnu is used by Hindus for the attribute of God as ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
star_munir

Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:57 pm   Subject: Dait kalinga
The term Vishnu is used by Hindus for the attribute of God as a sustainer of the universe. According to Shamsu (one of the members of ismaili.net forum- he posted this information in forum) the word ...
  Topic: is Hazir Imam more than an Intercessor?
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PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:34 pm   Subject: is Hazir Imam more than an Intercessor?
Also if only imam's interpretation is all that matters to you then why don't you write or go meet the imam in person and get his POV rather than wasting your time here ???

All Ismailis believe MHI ...
  Topic: After death
star_munir

Replies: 212
Views: 39054

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:31 pm   Subject: After death
Also note, there is no mention of Pir in the constitution. If IMAM really wanted to emphasize on the role of Pir then he would have mentioned it in the constitution.

I think everyone should read th ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
star_munir

Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:25 pm   Subject: Dait kalinga
Ismailism's fundamental belief is in the Holy Prophet being a Prophet of Allah. There is no concept of incarnations, reincarnation, manifestation etc, like in the Hindu religion. Islam is an Abrahamic ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
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Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 7:48 am   Subject: Dait kalinga
Except for the brief conversion period of Hindus to Ismailis, there is no historic evidence that Ismailism or Islam had any link with the Hindu religion. Islam has always been an Abrahamic religion. T ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
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Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 3:50 am   Subject: Dait kalinga
For us Islam is not only Arabian religion but universal religion. Ismaili tradition has rooted in different parts of the world. For better understanding of Satpanthi Ismailism, it is important to have ...
  Topic: Dait kalinga
star_munir

Replies: 127
Views: 70724

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 3:47 am   Subject: Dait kalinga
There are many waezes of Abualy missionary which you may download from ismaili.net. Just check it out, if there is one on Daet Kalingo.
  Topic: Miracles of Hazir Imam 1991 Pakistan
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Replies: 7
Views: 28161

PostForum: Anecdotes   Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:32 am   Subject: Miracles of Hazir Imam 1991 Pakistan
There are many waezes on ismaili.net. If you know any waez in which missionary/alwaez has shared any miracle of Hazir Imam, than please share the link. Thanks icon_biggrin.gif
  Topic: Ismailis and Arya Samaj
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Replies: 21
Views: 9093

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:34 pm   Subject: Ismailis and Arya Samaj
Mowla Ali Madad,
Its quite long description. I am just writing in short what Imam has mentioned. Imam stated that our religion is our religion. Either you believe in it or not. But you do not have ri ...
  Topic: Ismailis and Arya Samaj
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Replies: 21
Views: 9093

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:44 am   Subject: Ismailis and Arya Samaj
Mowla Ali Madad,
The reason that some of them left Ismaili faith is given in Memoirs of Aga Khan Pg 187
 
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