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  Topic: GINAN RECITATIONS
shivaathervedi

Replies: 28
Views: 4825

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:51 pm   Subject: GINAN RECITATIONS
Have you realized how these musicians have changed the Raga. They have mostly embedded the fast beats to modern Hip Hop and Rock music.
  Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
shivaathervedi

Replies: 104
Views: 34899

PostForum: Pre-Adam   Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:46 pm   Subject: time period of jugs and avatar
Adopted:

During Satyug, which God and Goddesses people used to worship?

Ramesh Sundar, BK from Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University (2007)
Answered Jan 27, 2018.

During satyug earth was ...
  Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
shivaathervedi

Replies: 104
Views: 34899

PostForum: Pre-Adam   Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:35 pm   Subject: time period of jugs and avatar

This is what Hazar Imam is doing instead of Pir Hasan. Naklanki is not creating institutions for salvation but it is his guidance through which an adept shall get salvation.
Satya Yoga was world of ...
  Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
shivaathervedi

Replies: 104
Views: 34899

PostForum: Pre-Adam   Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:09 pm   Subject: time period of jugs and avatar

How! Modern science is after producing chemical weapons, atomic missiles, laser rays weapons, cloned armies, star wars futuristic weapons, F-35 then F-45, or science will unearth some more mummys t ...
  Topic: Quranic Honorific Symbols, Terminologies, Exegesis
shivaathervedi

Replies: 22
Views: 4581

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:22 pm   Subject: Quranic Honorific Symbols, Terminologies, Exegesis
ULUL ALBAAB:

He grants wisdom to whom He wants. And to whom wisdom is granted indeed receive abundant good. But none will grasp the wisdom except men of understanding. Al Baqrah 2/269.
The phrase ...
  Topic: Imam and Imamat
shivaathervedi

Replies: 357
Views: 40336

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:18 pm   Subject: Imam and Imamat
Not annoying any one, if it is 'Akl e Kul, still he got losses in businesses, matrimonial issues and other things. 'Akal should have showed clear path.

Your sarcasm is not welcomed n this board. I ...
  Topic: Facing Kaba'a
shivaathervedi

Replies: 151
Views: 74023

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:10 pm   Subject: Facing Kaba'a
The context of the Prophet was different than the present. I have not come across any Farman of the last two Imams about going to Hajj. Of course no one is preventing anyone from performing it.

The ...
  Topic: Sindhi Sufi Poet Shah Abdul Latif Bhittai
shivaathervedi

Replies: 19
Views: 754

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:30 pm   Subject: Sindhi Sufi Poet Shah Abdul Latif Bhittai
ASEE(N) SIKU(N) JIN KHE SE TAA(N) ASEE(N) PAAN
HAN(N)EY WA(N)JH GUMAAN SAHI SU(N)JHATO SUPREE(N)

We yearn for those who we are ourselves
O’ Doubt! Leave, I have recognized the Beloved.

ASEE(N ...
  Topic: Facing Kaba'a
shivaathervedi

Replies: 151
Views: 74023

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:17 pm   Subject: Facing Kaba'a


That what I am doing. I memorized the meaning of Du'a and follow what Preamble says. Still waiting for reply," When Mata Salamat performed Hajj to which direction she faced to say salat in Mecca"? ...
  Topic: Imam and Imamat
shivaathervedi

Replies: 357
Views: 40336

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:27 pm   Subject: Imam and Imamat
Reading Ivanov and Ann marie Schimmel , they were Rasikunfiilm not necessarily Ismailis and Swami Vivekananda a non Ismaili well defined in the holy book as Rasikunfiilm ( mentioned as they which mean ...
  Topic: Imam and Imamat
shivaathervedi

Replies: 357
Views: 40336

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:12 pm   Subject: Imam and Imamat

Karim Sir, I appreciate you are trying hard to validate your point. Please take all articles of Preamble for consideration and not just one article. Are Ismailis not Shias? Do they not follow Ja'far ...
  Topic: Imam and Imamat
shivaathervedi

Replies: 357
Views: 40336

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:01 pm   Subject: Imam and Imamat

Karim Sir, you drifted away from your ideology, your words are " all actions of Imam are informed by the Noor", means Imam is informed by some outside source what to do!! Noor of who is guiding Imam ...
  Topic: Facing Kaba'a
shivaathervedi

Replies: 151
Views: 74023

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:43 pm   Subject: Facing Kaba'a

Pir Sadardin and other Pirs performed HAJJ, to which direction in Mecca they face to say salat. Was Pir Sadardin not aware that Allah's Noor is every where?We don't follow what the Peers did or do. ...
  Topic: Facing Kaba'a
shivaathervedi

Replies: 151
Views: 74023

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:34 pm   Subject: Facing Kaba'a
Follow the Imam of the Time and all your questions will disappear.

That what I am doing. I memorized the meaning of Du'a and follow what Preamble says. Still waiting for reply," When Mata Salamat p ...
  Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
shivaathervedi

Replies: 104
Views: 34899

PostForum: Pre-Adam   Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:32 pm   Subject: time period of jugs and avatar

The responsibility of Avtars was the salvation of souls. When Pir Hasan as a savior freed unlimited souls then what job is left for Naklanki??The role of Peer Hasan Kabeerdeen is to guide and pray ...
  Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
shivaathervedi

Replies: 104
Views: 34899

PostForum: Pre-Adam   Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:22 pm   Subject: time period of jugs and avatar

There is a detailed description of this concept in late Dr Gulshan Khakee's thesis (http://ismaili.net/heritage/node/29102) but of course the amazing topic of time and cycles needs more research.As ...
  Topic: Facing Kaba'a
shivaathervedi

Replies: 151
Views: 74023

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:03 pm   Subject: Facing Kaba'a
Once the direction is set, there shall be no change later.

Do you even realise what you are saying and how ridiculous an answer this is to explain where your descendants will turn while residing ...
  Topic: Imam and Imamat
shivaathervedi

Replies: 357
Views: 40336

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:48 pm   Subject: Imam and Imamat
If you read the preamble carefully, it states general Shia doctrine and then Ismaili specific doctrine/matters. You keep alluding to the Shia doctrine that applies to all Shias and not Ismaili specifi ...
  Topic: Imam and Imamat
shivaathervedi

Replies: 357
Views: 40336

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:35 pm   Subject: Imam and Imamat
Instead of cursing me better you people curse these publications.

We don't need to do what you are saying. The problem is not the publications, it is the Shariati interpretation of everything in Is ...
  Topic: Imam and Imamat
shivaathervedi

Replies: 357
Views: 40336

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:18 pm   Subject: Imam and Imamat

Imam had big losses in businesses, Imam had matrimonial problems, were those Noor inspired?
Regarding mistakes, I am not blaming him, I am quoting what he said and I believe him, if you not fine wi ...
  Topic: Facing Kaba'a
shivaathervedi

Replies: 151
Views: 74023

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:10 pm   Subject: Facing Kaba'a
Which direction is Kaba. In North America half of the Masjid face Kaba in the north west direction and the other half in the south west direction, please educate your self first, is the distance short ...
  Topic: GINAN RECITATIONS
shivaathervedi

Replies: 28
Views: 4825

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:52 pm   Subject: GINAN RECITATIONS
There is a Ginan App on Heritage with audio and translations whenever available. The App is for Android which dominate the mobile market at this point. The version 2 of the App is under preparation an ...
  Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
shivaathervedi

Replies: 104
Views: 34899

PostForum: Pre-Adam   Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:47 pm   Subject: time period of jugs and avatar

Momentarily!!! The non human Avtars stayed for more than two Yugas and you say momentarily.To appreciate the temporary/momentary basis of the appearance of Avatars to perform specific tasks for the ...
  Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
shivaathervedi

Replies: 104
Views: 34899

PostForum: Pre-Adam   Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:12 pm   Subject: time period of jugs and avatar

Rama was the first complete human Avtar and Pahlaj was before him in Karta Yuga means he was not in human form, in other words Avtar of mammals and different animals.
You are confusing evolution wi ...
  Topic: GINAN RECITATIONS
shivaathervedi

Replies: 28
Views: 4825

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:56 pm   Subject: GINAN RECITATIONS

Are translations included with that application?They are not, but are available from other sources such as this site.

So the listeners first will listen on application. Then try to find the trans ...
  Topic: Facing Kaba'a
shivaathervedi

Replies: 151
Views: 74023

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:51 pm   Subject: Facing Kaba'a
Why we face Ka'ba while performing Eid Namaz, Janazah Namaz, and Juma Namaz?I know for sure we don't face Ka'ba when performing Eid Namaz. For the other two I am not quite sure.

You pretend not to ...
  Topic: Facing Kaba'a
shivaathervedi

Replies: 151
Views: 74023

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:40 pm   Subject: Facing Kaba'a
In salat Shias face Ka'ba because Mowla Ali was born inside Ka'ba.

What direction will they face in two hundred thousands years when there is no planet earth and there is no Kaba and they are resid ...
  Topic: Imam and Imamat
shivaathervedi

Replies: 357
Views: 40336

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:03 pm   Subject: Imam and Imamat
Your problem has always been that you understand the "Imam" as a body made of flesh with an expiry date, when other understand the eternal Noor as "Imam". As said Mowlana Sultan Muhammad Shah, the S ...
  Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
shivaathervedi

Replies: 104
Views: 34899

PostForum: Pre-Adam   Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:52 pm   Subject: time period of jugs and avatar
My take; when thinking of 1400 years or 1000 years in past is not valid how come then thinking of past 700 years? Even the thinking of 700 is invalid if it is superseded by the present Imam.

Let ...
  Topic: GINAN RECITATIONS
shivaathervedi

Replies: 28
Views: 4825

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:36 pm   Subject: GINAN RECITATIONS
Appreciate their effort, but wander mostly Ismailis particularly youth in North America do not understand or speak Gujrati, how shall they understand the meaning, message, and spiritualism in ginans.O ...
 
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