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  Topic: Funeral Traditions and Ceremonies
shivaathervedi

Replies: 97
Views: 100483

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:27 pm   Subject: Funeral Traditions and Ceremonies
Please correct yourself, funeral rites and burial rites are Shari'ah practices. Do not misguide readers and youth.
  Topic: Paar Karo Berra (Par Karo Bera)
shivaathervedi

Replies: 21
Views: 2911

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:15 pm   Subject: Paar Karo Berra (Par Karo Bera)
Also Pir Sadardin forgot to mention the only daughter of Pir Hasan Kabiruddin?

You lack of logic is mind blowing. And so is your lack of understanding of Indian languages. Adhar (18 sons) are men ...
  Topic: Paar Karo Berra (Par Karo Bera)
shivaathervedi

Replies: 21
Views: 2911

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:53 pm   Subject: Paar Karo Berra (Par Karo Bera)

You are a trained scholar, how come you are running away from historical back ground of Ginans as poetry.As I said, someone else had answered satisfactorily and there was no need of repetition. Thes ...
  Topic: Picture Worship
shivaathervedi

Replies: 17
Views: 6725

PostForum: Customs and Traditions   Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:58 pm   Subject: Picture Worship
TASWEER TERI DIL MERA BAHLA NA SAKEY GI
MAI(N) BAAT KARU(N) GA WOH KHAMOSH RAHEY GI
NA SUN SAKEY GI NA JAWAB HI DEY SAKEY GI
MAI(N) HAATH LAGAU(N) TOU WOH KUCHH NA KAHEY GI
NA SHARMAI GI ...
  Topic: Paar Karo Berra (Par Karo Bera)
shivaathervedi

Replies: 21
Views: 2911

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:31 pm   Subject: Paar Karo Berra (Par Karo Bera)
Further on the authorship of Par Karo Bera:

This ginan may be referring to a Seyyed, one of the 18 sons of Pir Hassan Kabirdin, Pir Adaam Shah was brother of Seyyed Jaffer Fakir and of Seyyed Bala ...
  Topic: Paar Karo Berra (Par Karo Bera)
shivaathervedi

Replies: 21
Views: 2911

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:04 pm   Subject: Paar Karo Berra (Par Karo Bera)

Some where I read, Lalji devraj destroyed the original manuscripts after publishing what ever Ginans were available at that time.

According to what Vazir Qurban Sadiwalla told me 3 decades ago, ...
  Topic: Sindhi Sufi Poet Shah Abdul Latif Bhittai
shivaathervedi

Replies: 8
Views: 143

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:54 pm   Subject: Sindhi Sufi Poet Shah Abdul Latif Bhittai
ALAST BI RUBBIKUM JADHHEE(N) KUN PIYUUM
QALU BALA QALB SEE(N) TADHEE(N) TITT CHAYUUM
TAHEE(N) VELL KAYUUM WACHAN VERIVHAN SEE(N)

When “Am I not your Lord?” fell on my ears
I heartily said then ...
  Topic: Reincarnation in Islam
shivaathervedi

Replies: 241
Views: 62168

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:00 pm   Subject: Reincarnation in Islam
The ultra-wealthy are ready to spend huge amounts of cash to have their brains frozen after their death in the hope of being re-born in the future.
Deep-pocketed citizens are reportedly paying $100,0 ...
  Topic: Paar Karo Berra (Par Karo Bera)
shivaathervedi

Replies: 21
Views: 2911

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:52 pm   Subject: Paar Karo Berra (Par Karo Bera)
I would like Kmaherali shed some light on the ten points I posted on Paar Karo Beera.I am in agreement about what the Admin has written and responded. Generally I don't get bogged down by the historic ...
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:40 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
Islam is dinul yusar and not dinul 'usar. God does not put unnecessary burden beyond the capacity of a person. In Islam pregnant women near labor are relieved from saying Salat, Du'a, reason is with ...
  Topic: God will provide
shivaathervedi

Replies: 188
Views: 17119

PostForum: Inspiration   Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:49 pm   Subject: God will provide
Ready to depart:

On a journey free of cost
No worry seat is confirmed
The flight is always on time
Good deeds will be luggage
Humanity will be passport
Faith will be visa
Safe landing with Iz ...
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:35 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?

Cleanliness is next to Godliness. Please revisit your calculation. You wrote,"It affects the attendance of half of jamait". Let us assume 50% are male and 50% female. Then all women do not menstruat ...
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:17 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?


A very poor and nonsense example. Muslim empires were not destroyed because of in which direction to defecate, dear scholar.

You are welcome to tell us why Muslim Empires were destroyed if it w ...
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:54 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?

In the quote you posted, Imam is talking about spiritual plane and not over all on Islam. By the way how many Ismailis follow the spiritual interpretation of Imam for spiritual advancement or ethica ...
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:44 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
We are not going to return to the past. You logic is flawed. Imam has not said which direction one has to defecate and many such things and there are very elaborated hadiths saying which direction you ...
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:37 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?

EJI UTTAM HOI NAI DHOI
AAPNA ALAKH NE ARADHO.

Guidance is in this part of Ginan. There is a Farman of MSMS, "tamey paak saaf thai ne jamait khana ma aawo". Therefore all murids male or female M ...
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:23 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
Islam does not consider menstruation to be a punishment towards women, and it would be a grave error to compare this great religion to other faiths who do view menstruation in this horrible, derogator ...
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:59 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
I was at the house of an Muslim in India last year. We were eating in their kitchen, the table was big and could accommodate several people but one of the daughter in law was given food though the wi ...
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:19 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
Hadiths are not Farmans. At least they are not considered Farmans by Ismailis.

95% of Hadiths are probably fabricated. Why go to hadiths when we have an Imam of the Time? Of course no Ismaili would ...
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:50 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
In one of the interviews MHI said:

On the spiritual plane, the Imam's authority is absolute. Ismailis believe therefore that what the Imam says is the only true interpretation possible.

http:// ...
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:30 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
Fatima bint Abi Hubaish used to have bleeding in between the periods, so she asked the Prophet about it. He replied, "The bleeding is from a blood vessel and not the menses. So give up the prayers whe ...
  Topic: Farmans and Hadiths - Understanding, Sharing and Need
shivaathervedi

Replies: 71
Views: 21025

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:58 pm   Subject: Farmans and Hadiths - Understanding, Sharing and Need
Hazar Imam recently in India and USA made the whole Jamat as Dais and to share his message and blessings.

An article on meaning of a Dai
ismailignosis.com/2018/03/28/world-of-faith-the-imams-da ...
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:40 am   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
I do not understand, why you look at mostly questions with shari'ati lenses.
Pir has said;

UTTAM HOEI NAEI DHOEI APNA ALAKH NE ARADHO
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:46 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
Other issue, in Islam during mensuration cycle, a woman is prohibited to say salat.

Which "Islam"? There is no such thing in Ismailism though we are real Islam.

So one should not confuse Islam ...
  Topic: God will provide
shivaathervedi

Replies: 188
Views: 17119

PostForum: Inspiration   Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:23 pm   Subject: God will provide
NEEND ABHI KHULI NA THI
KE HAAI DHUUP DHAL GAI
PAAU(N) JAB TALAK UTHE(N)
KE ZINDAGI PHISAL GAI
AUR HUM KHAREY KHAREY
MORR PER RUKEY RUKEY
UMAR KE CHARAOU KA
UTAAR DEKHTEY RAHEY
KARWAN GUZA ...
  Topic: Angels
shivaathervedi

Replies: 160
Views: 82280

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:52 pm   Subject: Angels
Are there any bad angels? If they are bad, can still they be called angels? Still Iblees (satan) is an angel, God has not withdrawn the 'title' of angel. Once an angel for ever angel. God still needs ...
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:19 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
Other issue, in Islam during mensuration cycle, a woman is prohibited to say salat. What about an Ismaili woman, can she recite Du'a during mensturation cycle?
  Topic: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
shivaathervedi

Replies: 30
Views: 279

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:16 pm   Subject: Why Bandagi shouldn't be performed when pregnant?
The rules of BK bandagi were very strict at time of MSMS. In one of his Farmans, he said," If you are sick still you have to attend BK, no matter if 4 persons carry you on char pai (cot) to khaney for ...
  Topic: Sindhi Sufi Poet Shah Abdul Latif Bhittai
shivaathervedi

Replies: 8
Views: 143

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:31 pm   Subject: Sindhi Sufi Poet Shah Abdul Latif Bhittai
WAHDAHU LA SHARIK LAHU EE HEEKRAI HUQ
BHIYAI KHEY BHUKH JIN WIDHO SE WARSIYA
(Please pardon, It is hard to translitrate Sindhi in Roman English)

Meaning: Allah is uniquw and without a partener. ...
  Topic: Shan e Ali and Ahl e Bait in poetry.
shivaathervedi

Replies: 23
Views: 10725

PostForum: Qasidas & Geets   Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:41 pm   Subject: Shan e Ali and Ahl e Bait in poetry.
When you feel weary and teary
When you feel blue and black
Turn to Mowla to intercede for you

When you feel sad and in pain
At turns in your working and plans
Turn to Mowla for his helping hand ...
 
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