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  Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Jani

Replies: 207
Views: 98115

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:08 am   Subject: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Correction - I meant esoteric
  Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Jani

Replies: 207
Views: 98115

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:55 am   Subject: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Samir, we are in total agreement on how the jamat shies away from dealing with difficult issues by hiding behind "exoteric".

star_munir and others - have you seen the following report:

http://ww ...
  Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Jani

Replies: 207
Views: 98115

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:05 pm   Subject: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
star_munir, Since you ask I shall respond. Firstly what gives you the impression that I am against publication of Firmans per se? I do not agree with Firmans being published without “authority” of the ...
  Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Jani

Replies: 207
Views: 98115

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 4:06 am   Subject: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
A very resounding yes from you as I expected.

Just so that we know where our loyalties lie, I do not believe publishing the Firmans was a good idea - I have intimated the risks so will not expound ...
  Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Jani

Replies: 207
Views: 98115

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 2:21 am   Subject: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Undoubtedly our tariqa ia an esoteric one but we must not see everything in a baitun light - after all there is duniya as well not just deen. In fact we overuse the concept; quite often instead of res ...
  Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Jani

Replies: 207
Views: 98115

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:44 pm   Subject: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Knowledge, your post is very strong advertisement for why Firmans need to be edited; my post only had two sentences and yet you could not understand it (unless you honestly believe I am from another p ...
  Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Jani

Replies: 207
Views: 98115

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:39 am   Subject: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
You did not totally delete my post for which I guess I ought to be grateful. You have however edited it which then makes your reference to "through their filter" and "we are all educated" slightly orp ...
  Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Jani

Replies: 207
Views: 98115

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 2:12 am   Subject: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Admin,

You have again deleted a number of posts Let there be fair play otherwise not only will you lose the case, you will also lose "loyalty" to this site
  Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Jani

Replies: 207
Views: 98115

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:12 am   Subject: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Admin,

You invite us to have a healthy discussion but, as is your prerogative, you delete any posts that offer a contrary view. I had posted a more balanced version of the Law times report as well ...
  Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Jani

Replies: 207
Views: 98115

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:41 pm   Subject: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Star_Munir, which jurisprudence’s manners and ethics would you like me to learn? Since when have Ismailis been taught to label anyone who does not share your views as ill-mannered and unethical? What ...
  Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Jani

Replies: 207
Views: 98115

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 3:13 am   Subject: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Whatever the final outcome, one thing is abundantly clear - a number of the defendents' supporters believe Hazar Imam's leadership to be weak. May I point these same people to the Firmans on Tariqah m ...
  Topic: picking up access/reg card
Jani

Replies: 1
Views: 52311

PostForum: Padhramnis, Mulaquats and Didar other than Jubilees   Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:24 am   Subject: picking up access/reg card
Please read the rest of the sentence:

These cards will be available at the main Paris center "Palace" from Wednesday the 3rd of December for members who have already registered or at the Darbar hal ...
  Topic: UK Didar dates, events and testimonies
Jani

Replies: 197
Views: 648965

PostForum: Padhramnis, Mulaquats and Didar other than Jubilees   Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:08 pm   Subject: UK Didar dates, events and testimonies
Kayjay,

Besides tubes, the only other alternative (assuming coaches organised by the jamat are not available to international) is taxi as buses would involve a few changes and take forever! Black c ...
  Topic: UK Didar dates, events and testimonies
Jani

Replies: 197
Views: 648965

PostForum: Padhramnis, Mulaquats and Didar other than Jubilees   Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:20 pm   Subject: UK Didar dates, events and testimonies
Teqcherry - padodia khana will be at the Centre as usual.

Kayjay,

Hilton Cromwell Road is only a few minutes from Gloucester Road tube station and Ismaili Centre is one stop from there. If your ...
  Topic: qasidas Deedar on the 17th
Jani

Replies: 14
Views: 17105

PostForum: Qasidas & Geets   Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:58 am   Subject: qasidas Deedar on the 17th
Rahim,

You will find it on this site itself!

http://ismaili.net/drupal5/node/13095

There is a link to the audio on the top right
  Topic: UK Didar dates, events and testimonies
Jani

Replies: 197
Views: 648965

PostForum: Padhramnis, Mulaquats and Didar other than Jubilees   Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:05 am   Subject: UK Didar dates, events and testimonies
Is it just me or do the rest of you also sense a lack of real excitement amongst the UK jamat? Maybe it has something to do with the feeble Intezaari programme that we have initiated. Right from Modul ...
  Topic: qasidas Deedar on the 17th
Jani

Replies: 14
Views: 17105

PostForum: Qasidas & Geets   Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:56 am   Subject: qasidas Deedar on the 17th
Khudawanda tu Sultane karimi
Tu Bismaillahi Rahmano rahimi

Bebaksha bar mane zaaro Muqassir
Ghafora ra hema yarab ba aakhir

Man andar gharqhae bahe guna ham
Tu Daani charae bakhte siya ham
...
  Topic: 4 days ..
Jani

Replies: 1
Views: 1841

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:38 am   Subject: 4 days ..
Char din/char divas is a fairly common metaphor in the subcontinent - it simply signifies the four stages of an average life viz infancy/childhood, adoloscence, adulthood and old age
  Topic: Ginan on 10 PARAs of Quran
Jani

Replies: 4
Views: 4102

PostForum: Ginans   Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:39 am   Subject: Ginan on 10 PARAs of Quran
The Ginan is Moman Chetamni but please do not take it literally - think about taawil, tanzil, tafseer etc and you may be able to understand what Imam Shah was trying to convey.
  Topic: The sword presented on Golden Jubilee
Jani

Replies: 6
Views: 7448

PostForum: Rites and Ceremonies   Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:14 am   Subject: The sword presented on Golden Jubilee
The physical sword Dhulfikar is currently in Topkapi Museum in Istanbul together with a portion of the origianl door to Kaaba as well as other relics.
  Topic: Waez's
Jani

Replies: 4
Views: 3079

PostForum: Doctrines   Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:23 am   Subject: Waez's
There are good quality CDs available of Alwa'ez kamaluddin's waezes. You need to have contacts in Pakistan if you are interested.
  Topic: Aga Khan attacked?!?!
Jani

Replies: 9
Views: 5017

PostForum: Current Issues   Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:58 am   Subject: Aga Khan attacked?!?!
Why is it such a big issue? What is there to tell? You have read the reports - they have appeared in a number of newspapers - respected broadsheets not tabloids. So is veracity of these reports pivota ...
  Topic: success
Jani

Replies: 2
Views: 5524

PostForum: Customs and Traditions   Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:30 am   Subject: success
Naguib is right - it is an extract from a Firman in Tanzania.
 
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