this is totally disheartning. I sent the letter to mowla's secretary. around 5 emails sent since beginnning of janurary and not once did i get a reply back. it looks like leaders have stopped communications from all angles. Because atleast hear in the US no one in the jamat is being allowed to send letters to mowla.
Arent you the one who said mowla never ignores anyone or anyone's email/mail !!!
I told you hez busy in his own life !!
What happened now ?? Ok ok Lets forget all this sister........If I may....could you please tell us what is bothering you ?? It might be that there are others over here who can help you !
Salima, ask !!!!!!!! and insha allah... you might find the answer for god comes in various faces
this is totally disheartning. I sent the letter to mowla's secretary. around 5 emails sent since beginnning of janurary and not once did i get a reply back. it looks like leaders have stopped communications from all angles. Because atleast hear in the US no one in the jamat is being allowed to send letters to mowla.
Arent you the one who said mowla never ignores anyone or anyone's email/mail !!!
I told you hez busy in his own life !!
What happened now ?? Ok ok Lets forget all this sister........If I may....could you please tell us what is bothering you ?? It might be that there are others over here who can help you !
Salima, ask !!!!!!!! and insha allah... you might find the answer for god comes in various faces
ur **** edited by Admin : insults are not allowed here!***. read what i said "it looks like leaders have stopped communications from all angles" meaning that the leaders are stopping the emails from getting to him.
Also somethings are between the murid and the murshid. It has been reported from uthman that "some matters are for public to know and something is between a follower and me. The thing that is between me and the follower should not be discussed in public". with that being said this issue is between mowla and me. You have no reason and no one on this bored has any reason to know
"this is totally disheartning. I sent the letter to mowla's secretary. around 5 emails sent since beginnning of janurary and not once did i get a reply back. it looks like leaders have stopped communications from all angles. Because atleast hear in the US no one in the jamat is being allowed to send letters to mowla"
If you have still not heard I would suggest you start again. Address your letter to Hazar Imam, seal it, and give it your Local Mukhi Saheb, with a token mehmani. At the same time write a letter to the President of the council, informing him/her that you have previously written and giving the name of the individual/s and what precisely was said to you when you approached him/them. Also inform Him/her that you have handed a letter to Mukhi Saheb with a mehmani. In the letter also request that you would like confirmation that your letter and Mehmani has been forwarded to Hazar Imam.
For your information, the process is that the letter would be handed to the President and he/she would forwarded to Hazar Imam, and confirm to you that he has forwarded the letter to Hazar Imam. This is what Imam has directed and is a part of our constitution.
I hope that the above is of help to you. Please be patient and follow up with respect which I am sure you will do.
Two decades ago, in Karachi I requested a leader who was about to leave for meetings with Imam (He knew me well). I requested that I want an audience with Hazar Imam (even for 5 minutes). I implored him him to submit my humble request at Aiglemont.
He laughed at me and said," Beta proriei (early morning) sit in bandagi and have communication with Imam".
I laughed at him and said, "Uncle why not you sit in bandagi and communicate with Imam and give your air ticket to me so that I have an audience with Mowla".
He replied,"Tu sudhrey ga nahi" and laughingly left.
One more thing; as I am a Non-Ismaili, how should I be addressing His Highness The Aga Khan in the Letter ( and in general )?
As His Highness The Aga Khan, Mowla or Hazar Imam?
In my opinion address him according to what you know about and consider him from your heart. You can call him a friend, your highness, even Mowla if you consider him as such (even though you are not an Ismaili!).
Marr wrote:Hello! Is it possible to write a letter to Mawlana Hazir Imam?
Absolutely. Just write it, seal the envelop, write on top private and confidential, to the Holy Huzur Pur Noor of Noor Mowlana Shah Karim, Aga Khan IV.
Give to your Mukhi or Council for further transmission to Mowlana Hazar Imam and ask a written confirmation from Council that they have forwarded you communication.
Marr wrote:Hello! Is it possible to write a letter to Mawlana Hazir Imam?
Give to your Mukhi or Council for further transmission to Mowlana Hazar Imam and ask a written confirmation from Council that they have forwarded you communication.
For your information, the process is that you either give the letter to the Mukhi Saheb or the President of the National Council in you country. The President sends it to the Department of Jamati Institutions (DJI). This is one of the community's constitutional entity. This is at Aiglemont in France, and is moving to Lisbon, Portugal. All letters received are opened in this department and processed by them. The persons in that department are Sherbanoo Moledina, Shafik Sachedina, Amyn Kassim Lakha, Arif Lalani and others, including secretaries.
Marr wrote:Hello! Is it possible to write a letter to Mawlana Hazir Imam?
Give to your Mukhi or Council for further transmission to Mowlana Hazar Imam and ask a written confirmation from Council that they have forwarded you communication.
For your information, the process is that you either give the letter to the Mukhi Saheb or the President of the National Council in you country. The President sends it to the Department of Jamati Institutions (DJI). This is one of the community's constitutional entity. This is at Aiglemont in France, and is moving to Lisbon, Portugal. All letters received are opened in this department and processed by them. The persons in that department are Sherbanoo Moledina, Shafik Sachedina, Amyn Kassim Lakha, Arif Lalani and others, including secretaries.
"All letters received are opened in this department and processed by them".
Even before DJI, letters from jamaiti members were opened and read by top leaders with assistance of an Ismaili secretary to Imam, and on their recommendation only few letters reached on desk of Hazar Imam. Leaders kept tight grip on Ismaili affairs at that time till today. They want to keep all things under their control and secrecy. In sixties when letters started disappearing the jamaits adopted a new route. I was told, mostly letters were sent to Hazar Imam through Princess Tajuddoulla and Prince Sadardin. Hazar Imam used to visit his mother twice or thrice a month in London and she used to give that correspondence to Hazar Imam (as I am told). Leaders do not want their complaints should reach Hazar Imam, but Imam has other ways and means to collect information on them.
There is a Farman from our Imam to send our letters to him through Council and he has assured us that sealed envelope will not be opened by any other person. The secretary may open the envelops but I don't think she has permission to read inside. What happens in practice is that people who are unauthorized still abuse policies set by the Imam and read private and confidential letters.
I was told once by the head of Huzur department in North America that "we can not give to Hazar Imam sealed envelops as they may contain insults or accusation towards leaders, we read them and give the leaders the opportunity to reply before submitting the letter with the answers to the Imam and we put many offensive letters in the garbage". So that is how it happens.
But the fact is that we have to respect the Farman to send through Council. There is no way out.
Admin wrote:There is a Farman from our Imam to send our letters to him through Council and he has assured us that sealed envelope will not be opened by any other person. The secretary may open the envelops but I don't think she has permission to read inside. What happens in practice is that people who are unauthorized still abuse policies set by the Imam and read private and confidential letters.
I was told once by the head of Huzur department in North America that "we can not give to Hazar Imam sealed envelops as they may contain insults or accusation towards leaders, we read them and give the leaders the opportunity to reply before submitting the letter with the answers to the Imam and we put many offensive letters in the garbage". So that is how it happens.
But the fact is that we have to respect the Farman to send through Council. There is no way out.
Could you write that Farman please. Where and when. I didn’t know about this
Admin wrote:There is a Farman from our Imam to send our letters to him through Council and he has assured us that sealed envelope will not be opened by any other person. The secretary may open the envelops but I don't think she has permission to read inside. What happens in practice is that people who are unauthorized still abuse policies set by the Imam and read private and confidential letters.
I was told once by the head of Huzur department in North America that "we can not give to Hazar Imam sealed envelops as they may contain insults or accusation towards leaders, we read them and give the leaders the opportunity to reply before submitting the letter with the answers to the Imam and we put many offensive letters in the garbage". So that is how it happens.
But the fact is that we have to respect the Farman to send through Council. There is no way out.
Then how come DJI members open the letters addressed to Imam and on whose orders when Imam assured jamaits that sealed letters will not be opened.
Marr wrote:
Could you write that Farman please. Where and when. I didn’t know about this
I will try to find it back but I have read it, there is such Farman. Meanwhile here is an interesting one also:
"I have heard of your work and am very pleased with it. If you have any problems, send Me letters. If it is concerning business, write Me the full details. If it is concerning health, send Me doctor's reports as well. (Lindi, Tanzania, 3rd Nov. 1966)
Marr wrote:
Could you write that Farman please. Where and when. I didn’t know about this
I will try to find it back but I have read it, there is such Farman. Meanwhile here is an interesting one also:
"I have heard of your work and am very pleased with it. If you have any problems, send Me letters. If it is concerning business, write Me the full details. If it is concerning health, send Me doctor's reports as well. (Lindi, Tanzania, 3rd Nov. 1966)
Thanks a lot🙏🙏🙏🙏 Could you please🙏 find that Farman. Because it’s very very very important and urgent. I would be so grateful. Thanks again 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
"I have heard of your work and am very pleased with it. If you have any problems, send Me letters. If it is concerning business, write Me the full details. If it is concerning health, send Me doctor's reports as well. (Lindi, Tanzania, 3rd Nov. 1966)[/quote]
YA ALI MADAD!
Is there anyone who knows how do send a letter to Mowla? I've heard that people sen, but I don't know how. Could you share info if you know. I would be so greatful.
Just write and give it to Council or your Mukhi and tell him that it is a letter to be send to Hazar Imam. They will give you a confirmation in writting that they have send.
Just write and give it to Council or your Mukhi and tell him that it is a letter to be send to Hazar Imam. They will give you a confirmation in writting that they have send.
But if there any ways to talk to Mukhi remotely? For example to Mukhi in Lisbon. I am sorry if my question was silly. But this is important. Thanks in advance.
Hi, i was looking for mawla Bapa contact and somehow i found this post. I don’t know from where I start but I also tried to approach mukhi and council to send a letter to mawla Bapa, and since I lost My father and need a fatherly advice regarding a problem which I am currently facing at a young age and not know what to do regarding it, I believe only mawla Bapa can help me with this problem. If anyone read this post, I know this post doesn’t make any sense but can be a small source of hope for me to contact mawla Bapa.
Aisha1 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:54 pm
Hi, i was looking for mawla Bapa contact and somehow i found this post. I don’t know from where I start but I also tried to approach mukhi and council to send a letter to mawla Bapa, and since I lost My father and need a fatherly advice regarding a problem which I am currently facing at a young age and not know what to do regarding it, I believe only mawla Bapa can help me with this problem. If anyone read this post, I know this post doesn’t make any sense but can be a small source of hope for me to contact mawla Bapa.
Sorry to hear about the sad demise of you father. please accept condolence. Is your problem related to wordly affairs or some type of spiritual? In our system one is bound to contact Mukhi/Mukhyani of area first. If they are unable to solve your problem, then through Mukhi Saheb you have to send letter to president of council. It is the resposibilty of president of council to send your letter to office of Hazir Imam. My experience is, in rare case the letter reaches on desk of Hazar Imam. Letters are opend and scrutinized by some official first, if he thinks it is appropriate then it will reach the deck of Hazar Imam. If you are fortunate enough then letter can reach in hands of Hazar Imam.
Other way, if you have approach to some top leader who sympathizes with you and attends meetings in portugal, can sneak you letter and silently hand over to Hazir Imam.
Other option it can be possible to send letter through Princess Zahra Aga Khan.
There was a time when Imam Sultan Muhammad Shah used to give private audience as well answer the private letters of jamaiti memebers. Now times have changed, mostly every mureed wants audience with Imam or Imam should answer his/her letters. In the beginng Hazar Imam used to answer but work load increased as he was receiving scores of letters every day (mostly murids were asking about business affairs, where to invest money, or about health problems and which doctor to contact, or to which country I migrate, divorce problems, about family disputes and family matters to name few), besides he has to visit Ismaili community in different countries, go through the reports from various Ismaili institutions from 30/35 countries, attend meetings, meet world leaders and so on. Therefore Imam relied on Mukhis, and leadership of jamaits to solve immediate problems of Jmaits. Are they doing it sincerly or not, I can't say.
My suggestion is get the address of Portugal head office and send the letter directly to Imam, may be it reaches in the hands of Imam.
