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While I do agree with some points of the writer, but with all due respect I want to submit something in regards to authority and approval writer has mentioned while adjudicating our Jamati Leadership.

I don't think that we have any mandate or we’re empowered to give a CHANCE or APPROVAL to our leadership and allow them to rectify problem(s) and tell them what is right!!! I'd quote of the writing "we do give them the chance to rectify and do what is right ". If I may ask the writer as to how did she come to the conclusion that her opinion and/or proposals are right? Didn't she leave the outcome to MHI? Then isn't it His jurisdiction to adjudicate?

Though I do agree partially with writer's proposed way to express difference of opinion and grievance (i.e. privately to the Imam). But please remember that you and I are not in position to make judgment. I don't think anyone would object to your difference of opinion with Leadership's response or something else they're doing. But adjudicating anyone is something I don't qualify for myself personally. This reminds of a very relevant saying which goes like this "If you judge, you'll be judged".

Secondly, writer mentions about negative attitudes of Leadership. I would say it all depends upon an individual's approach. One may look a certain response POSITIVE and the same response may be perceived NEGATIVE by another person. This again reminds of a relevant verse of Urdu poetry:

SOCHNEY KEY ANDAZ BADAL JATEY HAIN WARNA,
ANCHAL KEY ISSI TAAR SAY BANTA HAY KAFAN BHI

Meaning it is simply difference of perception otherwise a thread which is being used to knit the outfit of a Bride, the same thread can be used to make a Coffin. Choice is yours what you want to make out of MHI has given you in shape of Leadership?

Here I'm not advocating that the leadership is perfect. No human being is perfect. However, it all depends upon individuals' way of explaining and realistic expectations of his/her submissions to leadership. This is true to all aspects in life whether be personal or professional.

I would like to conclude with my submission to the writer to read verses of very famous poetry namely "SHIKWA, JAWAB-E-SHIKWA" (meaning COMPLAINT AND THE RESPONSE OF COMPLAINT) by Allama Iqbal. Gist of the poetry is some questions posed to the God and then the God’s response to those complaints. I’m sure it’ll help you finding POSITIVE answers of many aspects you may think are NEGATIVE.

With all due respect and regards,

I don't agree to your process and even when you write to Imam we must not follow up.

I know that It is this private method you say, which has not worked and is still used by the Leaders to push issues under the carpet including letters sent to the Imam. All do not go to the Imam.

It is commendable that you and friends have written to the Imam because your leaders have not addressed your concerns and I assume have not sat down with you to discuss and explain or reach a consensus. That is sad and not good.

I feel the process we follow should be first to approach your Mukhi who is Imams' direct representative for us all.

You will be referred to a regional or a national leader. If they do not respond nor does your national President, Then you should approach and write to the President of LIF.

Then if you still receive no responses you should then write to Hazar Imam. If you do, then you need make sure you send it through your mukhi saheb with a Mehmani. Mukhi represents Imam materially and spiritually. So do share a copy with Mukhi. Make sure you send a copy also to your National Leaders and the LIF chairman.

It is important that your concerns are genuine, reasonable, and clear, giving your side and all your efforts with names who you wrote to and spoke to.

if your concern is that you are not happy with the way they are doing something specific, and it is serious, then you must not only say why you are not hoppy but most important you must also give reasoned alternative solutions which they should do and will be better and for the future. Remembering also, we must use the past to learn from it in order to use to, better manage and guide our future.

Many criticise about many things frivolously for the sake of criticising, and don't offer reasoned alternatives. That must be avoided.I am not suggesting you are or may be doing so of course.

For example, In the case of the lawsuit and open letters is what I mean And In the case of the scholar who is marginalised even when Imam gave clear instructions to SS which SS has confirmed in writing, but he has still not followed imam,s farmans or directives for 10 years.

I agree 100% that if like you more do the same and more leaders are aware, then there is no doubt there will be change for the good. When our intentions are good, and our leaders are good, then there will be plentitude of goodness. From goodness comes more good.

Dear sister:

What about MHI.  Did He not publicly declare negative comments concerning the leaders during GJ Farman in London?  Why go public?

Did he not repeatedly in India insist on Jamats seeking accountability, answerability and competence?  Why ask the jamats to do so? Does he not seek these himself, because if he did or does what would be the purpose of asking us to do it?

What did the imam mean when he said in one Farman during his 1986 visit to USA that the 'jamats thinking process must change'?  What did he want changed? And did we?

It is not enough to say the imam does this or does that, etc. 

The question to ask is, what iman asks us to do? Do we know what he expects us to do? Do we do what he wants us to do? 

You mentioned Shree went to great lengths to persuade Arjun to fight when Arjun refused to fight and wanted to give up their rights. (In fact the very reason Geeta was declared was because Arjun did not want to fight.) 

SK expressly told Arjun that those who do not support the righteous, in his eyes are as if they are supporting the unrightousness and at one point SK was upset at Aruun for not wanting to attack his guru that SK himself was prepared to break his own oath and take arms and kill, but Arjun came around in time.

Also MSMS has made an express Farman that 'hu tamne java daish' - I will let you go - and will not salvage you. This Farman is in Kalame Imame Mubeen.

Our history is full of situations of when jamats became lethargic   and accepted blindly what was fed to them and in the process failed to abide by their hazar Imam's farmans, they were discarded.

Pir has said: jem tamboli Katri nakhe paan, teem sami rajo katri nakhe jamat...,., how much more clearer do pirs have to be? MHI recently said, 'they lose the right to be part of the jamat'. What did MHI mean, how much clearer do they need to be.

These are pirs views not mine, as you seem to indicate.

Dear Bahen Zeenatara,
Ya Ali Madad, Beautifully written and very true that Nagib and Alnaz should not feel that many of us don't believe in them and that no body is helping them, as a matter of fact Alnaz & Nagib we all love you and your family, we know your devoted seva towards The House of Imamat and we are praying for you that May Mowla Bapa helps you both to come out of this case smiling and that may he shower his choicest loving blessings on you both and your family in all your endeavours to help his Jamat and make him our beloved Imam happy.Ameen... One thing I agree strongly that no matter what anyone has done, said or harmed us or others, as an Ismailis we don't want bitterness, animosity, hostility, hatred, division in our community. We have the Mayalu Divine Chatra Chayya of our beloved Hazar Imam on all of us and being his Murid we are all united and no one can break our unity, our love, our affection towards each other as we all Ismailis want our Imam to be our very happy spirtual father of all of us living united as one big family as brothers and sisters around the globe.
One request to you both that keep on praying and remembering him all the time as Mowla is the Taaran Haar and he will protect you both and your family and will bring you out Insha'allah from all the difficulties you are going through. Ameen.
With Ya Ali Madad and lots of prayers for you and all the Ismaili Aalam around the world for Mushkila'Ashaan and Imanji Salamati.

I am convinced (99%of the leaders) no leaders have any inclination to help the jamat.
They are leaders for themselves and for Institutions.
Not even 1% must be reading the comments on this website.
They have been convinced by their bosses to visit this website is a "Na farmani"

They have been convinced somehow that MHI is handling the lawsuit and no one is allowed to discuss or intervene

Nagib and Alnaz have been portrayed to be "Shaitan" or "Kafir" and anyone remotely favoring them are also Kafirs and "Na farmani" individuals and hence very bad people.

Few days ago one murid in my JK asked a high status mukhiani to give the meaning of a particular ginan. She was not sure if she could , so I innocently recommended she could get from Ismaili. net. Her reaction was of total dislike and disgust at the mention and idea of going on that website. She adamantly said she will never go on this website since it is run by Mawla's enemies! I was stunned to see her reaction. I agreed to provide the copy myself to the seeker. This may be case with most leaders and people who could make any difference. But in the final analysis leaders are there for post and few seva here and there. No one can upset SS.

No one has time or inclination to find the truth. To accept talika to be fake is too far fetched and impossible to digest.

So if you are counting on any leader to wakeup and ask Qs is living in the world of fantasy. It is never going to happen.

Very touching motherly wisdom from an 85 year great grandmother on how very important it is that Shafik Sachedina and M Manji should be setting an example to others, and also why it is fundamental to respect and honour all our rites such as mehmanis and Niyaz. If leaders don’t then what will stop leaders and others in future to insult, disrespect or discard our Tariquah.

It is also very encouraging and heart warming to see a great grandmother of 85 communicating with us on internet. Thank you for sharing your wisdom, and Ma you are so right.

Wow!
I cannot believe SS handed out unsigned copies of talika? If talika copies can be made and circulated , why not farmans? Is n"t it the same concept? And why unsigned?
So no one can personally start comparing the signature with signatures of MHI on some of their own personal blessings or letters? What was the idea? Why was this marketing stunt? I thought London jamat is loaded with educated and intelligent Ismailis. Talika has to be read with ceremonial ritual , then handing out copies is disrespectful to the tradition of jamati ritual and respect.

The onus is on each and all of us to share with and inform regional leaders, and the jamat including older members. Everyone who knows and is able must make effort to share and inform. If they dont then like the leaders they are also letting Imam and themselves down. (Inal Ladhina yubaya unaka...). Imam wishes us to do so. For example in this case informing and sharing what Imam directed on 15th October 2010, and how Alnaz and Nagib have honoured Imam's wishes.

Dear sister:

If we look at history it is evident beyond doubt that masses were discarded by the Imams.

The question is who is innocent? MHI has made public farmans: egs. GJ London. Against leaders!
In 1978 visit to Canada, no one should change traditions from 'within or outside' our jamats.
In 1994 London practice faith out of conviction nor convenience.
In 1992 India repeatedly urged us to seek 'accountability, answerability and competence.

Yet the jamats IGNORE such farmans.

Two weeks ago was beej, changed to Saturday. How many of us sought accounting, or how many of us even bother to keep a keen eye on these matters. Those members who become lazy and take a hands off approach, pir said: bhav huee pan bhaghti na huee, jeedo uthi be chaliyo nirash.. He who had desires but did not act, will be disappointed when they leave this earth. Pirs also said: that during their accounting, jeevs will not be able to say we did did not know, for the message will have been given but ignored by the jeev. MHI also said in 1986 during his trip to USA that the 'jamats thinking process must change'. Do the jamats know what must change and have they acted on it.

By not actively searching and seeking to abide by the Imam's expectations a jeev will not be able to avoid discardation. Every age, every time waste majorities were discarded. Look at Prophet Mohammed, just.a handful followed, rest remained or were sent to remain under the Abu Bakrs of the day. Today too, same events are unfolding: who will go on with the Imam, who will remain with today's Abu Bakrs? Leaders of course will pay but so will individuals who ignore at their peril. MHI recently said: they lose the right to remain with the jamat.

Ya Ali Madad Zeenatara. Very well said. Thank You.

Brother Abdul, i completely agree with what you have said. I do not understand how our ismaili boards are working anymore. It is as if they are trying to block all of our history that has anything to do with mysticism or the ali allah or das avatar. There are several ginans that are even banned from our jamat khana here, and i do not understand why. I am sure mowla has a reason for this and its my duty to follow his farmans but lately i have been seeing things that are just plain absurd. When i talked to my mom about this she told me that leaders are appointed by their secular achievements and many do not even understand what ismailism really is. She said no matter what happens, your only allegiance is to mowla.

Only follow mowlas farmans. In regards to this matter, we, ismailis, should not be judgmental of our brothers. We do not know their intentions at all, only mowla does. And things always happen for a reason, who knows, maybe mowla wants the jamat to learn from this incident. Regardless, we should not judge at all because we have no right to. In jamat khanas i see so many people speaking ill of the defendants without knowing a single thing..it seems that this is very popular in our community. This is what keeps us divided. I truly believe that their intentions are only to serve the imam and spread his word. Noroz mobarak to all my brothers and sisters.

Ya Ali Madad brother Abdul, and very well written "You need the immediate help of a good, secular litigation lawyer, much like Mr.Gray, someone unhampered by religious considerations, who will not hesitate to x-examine anyone and everyone properly to advance your cause. One day of real x-examination would have exposed these self-centered, power-hungry, nepotistic Ismaili leaders, for the small people that they are. And the whole case would have been hastily withdrawn by them because of the ugliness that would be exposed." many of us will agree with your suggestions, I hope and pray that may our lord Hazar Imam be with Nagib Tajdin & his Family, Ameen.

21 MARS 2011…….
NAWROZ MUMBARAK !

Nawroz, avec l’Eveil de la Nature est une bonne occasion pour revitaliser en nous ces repères qui s’appellent amour, sagesse, bonté, paix, inspiration, humilité, gratitude et solidarité active. Que par la Grâce d’Allah, ce Nouvel an nous donne l’élan, la santé et la sagesse pour travailler sur nous-mêmes, progresser dans notre quête spirituelle, amplifier nos actions, généreux dans nos sentiments de compassion et nos marques de sollicitude. Et qu’éclairés par le Noor de Mowla, notre Foi Bathini nous donne cette certitude que quelque chose en nous est absolument hors d’atteinte et que cette conviction, ce trésor mental échappe à tous les aléas de la vie physique matérielle !

Rendons Grâce à la Miséricorde d’Allah et adressons nos Sukranas à notre Vénéré Mowlana Hazar Imam qui nous donne la chance de partager ce jour de Nawroz avec les nôtres, avec le Jamat et avec ceux qui nous sont chers ! Sollicitons très humblement Ses Saintes Bénédictions pour construire notre demeure avec la sagesse comme charpente et remplissons-la d’amour pour la conserver, la consolider. A l’heure du bilan et de prise de bonnes résolutions, il nous faut aussi fructifier, recharger cette expression de sérénité qui caractérise les traits des sages et des Murids de Mowlana ! Avec la Foi de conviction, avec Mowlana Hazar Imam toujours présent avec nous sur la voie du Siratal-Mustaquim, nous parviendrons à vaincre les peurs et nous ferons face à nos difficultés. Et grâce au Bandgi, nous nous élèverons jusqu’à ce sommet où nous sentirons non seulement Sa présence divine mais durant le voyage terrestre en Sa compagnie, quelque chose d’indestructible ne pourra jamais nous être enlevé.

Encore Nawroz Mumbarak ! Et que cette année 2011 qui commence très troublée soit pour nous tous, très lumineuse, avec de beaux rires joyeux, de la joie de vivre à partager ! Quoi qu’il arrive, un vrai Murid est toujours le protégé de Mowlana Hazar Imam ! Et souvenons nous »Aucun Océan, aucun Désert, aucune Montagne ne pourra séparer le Murid de son Imam »

Mohez nato

Your comments are appropriate. One problem in hiring a senior litigator in this matter is the lack of knowledge respecting our Tariqah, etc., and for which we would have to give him days and days of training at our cost, and moreover we would have to give him access to farmans (all Farman books etc.). If you look at Mr. Gray's cross-examinations, you will know what I mean by this.

As well, despite our very busy in our own commercial lives to take care of our responsibilities we still devote a lot of time and effort to fight SS and his associates.

However, our cross-examination of SS and AB was not that bad - we destroyed both of them, but unfortunately jamats and other leaders don't bother to even read them to understand the truth from the horses mouth.

Jamats today don't care much to their peril, that in all ages the Lord of the time has and continued to discard the jamats from the Sat Paant. It would be difficult to write various Farmans of MSMS and MHI to show how they have both mentioned publicly of discarding jamats.

The litigation process in a way is "shifting" through to allow the believers to be solidified and the "acceptors" to be discarded just as Mawlana Jafer Sadik did, as Mawlana Mustan Sirbillah and Nizar did (allowing false Talikas to be read in JKs appointing Musteh Ali as the Imam to succeed to the position of Imam.

Mention has been made of Shree Krishna. For those who really want to understand our Imam, his responses and tact, should see Ramanand Sagar's Shree Krishna, I wish i could write (would take days) out many things Shree Krishna did and how he did whenever others acted wrongly. For example the events leading to the marriage of Arjun with Shree Krishna's sister, how Shree Krishna actually supports his elder brother to fulfill his promise to marry their sister to Duryojan even though Shree Krishna wanted their sister to marry Arjun.... Yes, knowing that his elder brother was wrong, he nonetheless assisted him but at SAME time giving hints to Arjun and his sister not to give up their love despite him (Krishna) participating in the wedding with Duryojan). He gives one very insignificant piece of advice to his sister to ensures she not only wins but at the same time ensuring that the elder brother recognizes his mistakes.......

The present form of Shree Krishna is operating on similar lines....

The other writer was in point: watching Shree Krishna will definately help understand Imams and their ways of operation.

Another eg. of Shree Krishna. Just as the great war was set to begin, Shree Krishna urges Yudustar to send an ambassador of peace although lots of discussions had taken place seeking them to return Hastinapur back to Paanch Pandawas. The ambassador request was rejected firmly. Despite objections by PP, K insists on going himself to make a last plea to avoid the war, and K offers a HUGE compromise (as the current K did on Oct 15) that just give 5 villages to PP and keep rest of Hastinapur for ever, a huge huge compromise, giving up the rights of PP completely.

Duryojan rejected the compromise (just as SS and MM did on Oct 15), and ultimately not only lost Hastinapur to PP but also lost their kingdom as well as their lives.

Moral: K offered to the very people committing wrong to prevail by keeping the barn, the wrongful felt they were very powerful and rejected the offer, ultimately lost all.

MHI did same on Oct 15: although wrong, MHI offered a compromise which was rejected. Who knows what the current K has in mind, what goal he has in his mind...

Simply excellent.

This Ismaili "Mahabharat" will remain in history, whatever happens. It will be, in the future, part of the syllabus taught to Ismaili students.

As I have said, copyright is not the main issue nor is it the main fight. If this was only about copyright [which we have never challenged] and about publication or about a couple of forgeries, we would not be so adamant to fight the battle. Though the real subject will never be mentioned in Court even at low voice, there is more to it.

We will fight hard for the truth and for our Imam, but we will fight within the parameter set by the Imam on 15th October 2010 during our half an hour meeting.

We will fight, strong in our belief that Mowla is guiding us and that His continuous protection is on us. After all, when He left from the conference room that day after giving His instructions, He said to us with His hand on His heart "Khuda Hafiz"

Nagib

Navroz Mubarak to all. Please keep this thread to discuss the issues of the lawsuit only. Navroz wishes should go in the Forums or guestbook section.

Why are some people posting as new comment even when they are writing a reply or some idea as a reference or continuation? To maintain the continuity of the idea of a particular blog , I think it is wise to post reply under the particular blog one is refering rather than at the top , so one can read it in context and will make sense.

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Thank you so very much for sharing with us the above ginan verse and Farman quote.
Ya Aly madad.

@ Kasamali I agree if you define and understand “focus and aim is Him”” as Ibadat which includes both din and duniya. We need to daily do everything in our lives according to the best of our ability and also our tariquah - Islam.

Bloglow has summarized clearly what Ibadat is;" ..Ibadat is to submit and obey Him. Our faith is a way of life. Ibadat is also to follow Imam’s Farmans, guidance and wishes. Ibadah is the ultimate in obedience, submission, humility and love. Ibadah consequently means following our beliefs, practices, Farmans, and prohibitions. An example of Ibadat is , If, while walking on the road, you remove a stone or a thorn lest it should hurt someone. If you nurse a patient or show the way to a blind man or help a person in distress, this is also 'Ibadat'. Ibadat must be performed all the time in our daily lives. Bandagi, Zikhr and Seva are all a part of Ibadat" & So are Ginans etc.

@ Seeker – You are right that spiritual communication is one way street to many if not most. Spriritual communication is only a part of Ibadat. With Ibadat you will know from the outcomes of what you wish and want but cannot control. There are many examples in everyday of our lives. For example think of some of your successes or unexpected coincidences the outcome of which wes not in your control. However it is extremely important that what you want must not be confused with what you need. Ibadat enables and empowers too.

One of the GJ initiatives for the jamat by MHI was for jamat to understand well “Who is Imam and what is Imamate"
However, to my understanding council was unable to implement it effectively due to lack of enough alvaezeens to effectively transmit this very deep concept.

There is one disadvantage of globalization to a small community like ours. The vaezeens with good understanding of this subject are rare and placed remotely over the globe. As a result we do not have regular vaezes in western world to impart that much needed flame of knowledge and inspiration to understand this “batuni “ concept of “ Imamat”

In area where I live there is barely one vaez in 3 months if we are lucky which if you miss you have no way to get a tape or CD or any transcript So at the best may be 1 or 2 vaezes on Laitul kadar night is all that I get to hear. IIS publications are very scholarly and informative but lack inspiration.Great for mainstream and university students.

As a result, it becomes a personal endeavor to educate and enrich one self on this matter in the best possible way as one can. Knowledge may be sought wherever it is available in its covincing and quality form.

Once I was convinced of Das Avtar philosophy, put forward by Pir Saderdin and authenticated by ISMS on several occasions including old dua, (which was recited for a number of years by Ismaili khojas). I ventured on my own to understand the concept as much as possible. There are number of lectures delivered by Hindu scholars under the title Bhagvat Katha or similar. Wherever there is a mention of Krishna, I substitute it with “Hazar Imam” According to Hindu scriptures, Krishna is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent He is the eigth manifestation of lord Vishnu whom we call Allah. They are awaiting the Kalki Avtar as the last manifestation of Vishnu but according to Pir Saderdin Ginanic philosophy and as validated by ISMS ,Hazrat Ali and the entire Imamat from his lineage are the manifestation of 10th Naklanki Avtar.

In addition, “Brahma” in Hinduism is equivalent to Prophet Mohammad per my understanding. Once I accepted these concepts, I have discovered Infinite amount of knowledge to understand the Imamate whom Hindus call " Krishna consciousness"

There is series by Ramanand Sagar on Indian channel called " Shree Krishna" and Mahabharat that explains Shree Krishna’s (8th Avtar) character in extensive details and when you hear the teachings and character, there is absolutely no difference in how MHI and previous Imams conducted themselves and what were their teachings were. One can quickly relate the two manifestations with remarkable similarity.

I have some Pakistani friends who make fun of me and say I am Hindu but I tell them I can find Mawla and relate it to Imamat in every religious teaching I place my hands on. With MHI opening Global centre of pluralism I make my point more strongly.

Since I have roots in India, Hindu culture and philosophy is easy for me to understand and relate to. Therefore, I call those Bhagvat Katha my vaezes to understand " Imamate" It has served me personally well. It has taken me close to my Mawla. This is comforting to realize my understanding is valid. Any religion that takes you closer to your creator to me that is a good religion. You can go to China if you have to seek enriching knowledge (ISMS, 48th Imam) So I do not really have to go to China I find it on Indian TV channels.

During GJ it was my personal goal to understand Imamat as much as possible. My profession does not allow me enough time to study other religions but I have tried to study "Krishna" who is my Imam in Dwarpur Yug to understand his mood and thinking and style as much as possible. I have tried to understand also Hazar Ali 's character in details In addition, ISMS I have read a lot about his way of thinking and preaching. I have lived my entire life in the joma of Shah Karim so try to understand as much as I can. Of course, a human mind can never know him or understand Him completely and I know my limitations.

The remarkable consistency in behaviors and teachings is exceptional and comforting very much validating my personal belief.

None of the characters of manifestation of Noor depicts how this lawsuit is portraying IMAM. Mawla has always been merciful, kind, forgiving, pure and harmless in all his endeavors. Even in times of wars and struggles he has never been the one to raise his sword first and has never attacked unarmed. The ethical and moral picture of Shree Krishna and all the Imams starting from Hazrat Ali has been remarkably just and very wise and thoughtful. So perfect indeed! They have not only forgiven worst of enemies but never treated anyone with disrespect!

This particular lawsuit and the portrayed action of MHI does not fit in my image and understanding of MHI’s personality, behavior thoughts or actions and on the whole the Imamat as an essence. To shortly believe that MHI initiated and pursued this lawsuit like how it has been is beyond my wildest imagination. It would be a great insult to my Mawla if even transiently I accepted the perceived character of Mawla as per lawsuit leave aside to believe it. MHI is all knowing omnipresent and omnipotent most merciful. He could never fight with an unarmed soldier in any Avtar why would he fight with unrepresentated two murids who are crazy about him even if they may be idiots.

My heart and mind is constantly battling to understand this aspect of MHI, which is so unsettling to my spirit! My father 74, is trying to convince me it might have been a necessary step to save the institutions and prevent random printing of Farman but I am not convinced a bit since there are easier less vindictive methods. These murids do not deserve this harshness. Again, I may be very wrong I admit but I am seeking for a solace in my mind and spirit.

Continuation of the case in a way is secretly helping me to cope with the dilemma that what is portrayed may not be the truth. There is a ray of hope. Nevertheless, I am not very optimistic this time around.

I am spiritually drawn to the idea of communicating with Him directly and not worrying about anything else. The challenge is that one does not control the outcomes in the spiritual realm and it is, at least initially, a one-way communication. So for those who have been "blessed" and progressed to two-way communication with Him, what is His verdict/mood/guidance on this entire issue of the lawsuit?

~Seeker

At times in our lives we loose focus and our thoughts wonder. Leaders too :). This can bring confusion distractions and clouds in our hearts and lives. I agree that the best remedy is Ibadat. Imam says in a GJ Farman that we can take out our tasbih and call upon Ya Allah, Ya Mohammed, Ya Ali or the names of Imams. However we must not forget Dunya or the balance between din and dunya. I was watching a film of Budhaa. He was a recluse meditating alone in the forest for many years. One day he was by the river. A father was passing by and helping his son to tune his guitar. The father said Son, if you wind the string too tight it will break and if the string is loose it will not play the right tune. As the son was winding each string his father was helping him and saying not too tight my Son. Bhudha was visibly touched and unlighted by this encounter. He decided to immediately move back to live amongst his people. Din and dunya are equally important.

Mr Gray's motion is dismissed without an appearance.

If Imam was handling this case personally and Mr Gray said to Imam he would like to be legally aggressive & try to dismiss the appeals on a legal technicality even though there is little or no chance of succeeding.

1 Would Imam have said yes ?

2 Would Imam be aggressive or vindictive or confrontational towards any of his murids or anyone for that matter?

Imam advocates and exemplifies respect, dialogue, reason and ethics.

Also As a prominent law firm and lawyer Gray will have advised those instructing him that there is little or no chance of succeeding in this motion to dismiss. SS and MM will have known this.

Gray will have advised them so, also because of the possible impact on reputations, and what people will think about him, his law firm, and the named plaintiff who is "The Aga Khan"

I hope respect, dialogue and reason will prevail going forward.

Order dated 14-MAR-2011 rendered by The Honourable Madam Justice Dawson Matter considered without personal appearance. The Court's decision is with regard to the motion / document number 2 Result: dismissed

See Docket: http://cas-ncr-nter03.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?...